actually Max payne isnt a first person shooter, its more a 3rd person action adventure.

i lost all interrest in wolfenstein when they started including zombie monsters and crap.

I agree with coyote, I wasn't very impressed by the zombies in RTCW, it ruined the game, shooting nazis was enough for me

Half-Life is the best first person shooter so far IMO.

Half Life hands down
but max payne is a awesome game regardless
RTCW2 wasnt that good of a game,
BF1942 is a sweet game,

James Bond Goldeneye 007 on n64 is the best game of all time for 1st persons! (console based)

But all time best definatly Half Life, because of how large of a range of a game it was and all the things you could do, as opposed to all the other engines and mod's made from and for it

i didnt care for RTCW for the weapon dynamics... they just didnt feel right.

Medal Of Honor rocked... Until i saw this

Deus Ex (single player)
Tribes 2 (multiplayer)
Theif 2
System Shock 2 (liked deus ex much better)

their a bit dated... but those are my favs.

I agree totally with the zombie cripe in Return to Castle Wolfenstien but other than that I liked it.

I dont know about half life though I've never played it.

I had Deus Ex but it was almost like half of the game. It was some sort of huge demo thing. I cant wait for the new one to come out.

I myself have an N64 and Goldeneye. Thats got to be my favorite shooting game for any console. I really like the multiplyer especially since I always win

I bought 007 Nightfire for the pc. Its not bad but its really easy and the story line is kinda cheesy. The cool thing in the game is that if you put on you're special goggles that can see into buildings and stuff you can look at the girls and you can see there thongs and stuff. Its very funny :lol:

Have any of you people played Oni for the PC? I have the game and I thought it was a pretty big letdown. The only thing I liked was the fighting some of the moves were pretty cool. The graphics sucked big time the people faces were cartoon couldnt they make them a bit 3D at least.

Has anybody here ever played SOF? I loved that game. It was so funny how you could shoot there limbs off and stuff. I had SOF 2 but it was way to hard and they got rid of alot of the goar. :(

i haven't been able to kill the big guy at the end, tried numerous times but finally gave up so that was kind of a bummer but otherwise not too bad.

The Bad:
Playing a mute isnt my idea of fun. Therefore I did not like RtCW, and consider it one of the lesser FPS of modern time. Mindless shooting without dialogue is like going back to the GALAGA days.

Unreal 2 came out as an dissapointment. Probably becouse the ending trashed the only bit that held the game above mediocre scores.

Just becouse Half-Life was the first FPS to have a story, doesnt make it the best. It have been replaced in the timeline a long time ago.

Anything from ID. Sure, they have decent engines, and I guess thats what their games are - an engine. Many good games have been created out of their engines.


The Good:
On the good side, I say "The Academy Award Winning" Deus Ex will be difficult to compete with for a long time.

No One Lives Forever 1/2 got all the theme I look for in FPS'es, with characters you just gotta love.

Soldier of Fortune II contains a decent story together with memorable heroes and villians.

Clive Barkers Undying scared the **** out of me more than once, and got a really well written storyline behind it. Only thing that spoiled it was the access to heavy weaponry early in the game.

Medal of Honor, and more importantly - spearhead, contained all the juice I want of a World War game. I loved both.

Aliens VS Predator II, love love love. But I cheated past the end of the predator game due my unnatural phobia of eight legged freaks that attach themselves to my face.

Duke Nukem 3d. If you disagree, im gonna rip of your head and **** on your neck.

Jedi Knight 2. A blast. Loved every part of it.

Max Payne. Not a FPS, but it belongs here.

Operation Flashpoint, the real war, just like it should be.

JemyM has a good taste in FPS games I can see.

Agree on all games except Undying and Deus Ex, heard they were good, but I never fell for them.

Americas Army is one of the best FPS imho. Using the Unreal Warfare engine it rocks!

Flashpoint or Flashpoint Resistance if anyone diagrees I'll drop a LGB on you with my A10!!

JemyM has a good taste in FPS games I can see.

Agree on all games except Undying and Deus Ex, heard they were good, but I never fell for them.

For Undying, I can understand. It is a bit screwed with being to much of a shooter. I liked the story, the characters, the theme. Gameplay is not the best.

For Deus Ex, I know more than a few that would bet their own mother on voting that game as the best game ever (all cathegories).
The bad part is probably that you must play through a couple of levels before you are truly sucked in. The first map is little more than a tutorial really.

For Undying, I can understand. It is a bit screwed with being to much of a shooter. I liked the story, the characters, the theme. Gameplay is not the best.

For Deus Ex, I know more than a few that would bet their own mother on voting that game as the best game ever (all cathegories).
The bad part is probably that you must play through a couple of levels before you are truly sucked in. The first map is little more than a tutorial really.

I only played the first level :)

Flashpoint or Flashpoint Resistance if anyone diagrees I'll drop a LGB on you with my A10!!

Best war FPS ever, no doubt! I've played the game and all the expansions over and over :)

Then you didnt make it through the tutorial

No wonder you didnt 'get it'. The storyline is the most complex I have seen in a computer game. At least from games outside japan.

I know it's not state-of-the-art but to me, Giants: Citizen Kabuto was/is one of the most entertaining games I've ever played. If you haven't played it, it's a FPS with a twist. You have to collect resources, build bases, feed and heal your troops and you have an arsinal of weaponry that would make any arm-chair general jealous.

To add to the fun you can play as 3 different characters ... all with unique abilities and access to different weapons and skills. In that sense it has RPG attributes and there are actual missions you have to accomplish to advance thru the game (almost like puzzles at times). If that weren't enough, the dialog and mini-movies between the various stages of the game is hilarious. Sure ... it's Australian humor ... but they are our brothers in arms.

In combat mode you can fight hand-to-hand or with a vast of array of weapons. The graphics are pretty good for such a dated game and just getting it to run smoothly was a hardware challenge that only now is being met easily. It also has full EAX support which gives it great sound quality and fairly impressive 3D effects.

So ... you get to shoot, slash, explode, tornado, drop bombs from a helicopter, rain down terror on your enemies, stomp, eat and otherwise destroy just about everything in site ... and be highly entertained all at the same time. What more could you ask for?

Later.

Has any one here not played BF1942, the MOD Desert Combat is the best multi-player 1st person around at the mo, am a Counter-Strike player firstly and have been for almost 3 years, but Desert Combat just blew me away awesome game play top weapons and vehicles, this game will go far.

I know it's not state-of-the-art but to me, Giants: Citizen Kabuto was/is one of the most entertaining games I've ever played. If you haven't played it, it's a FPS with a twist. You have to collect resources, build bases, feed and heal your troops and you have an arsinal of weaponry that would make any arm-chair general jealous.

GCK was a blast, however, my experience was stopped when a bug did not allow me to finish a level. I did not want to start all over again, so I just left.
It contained elements from all existing genrees, such as RTS, RPG, FPS etc.

GCK was a blast, however, my experience was stopped when a bug did not allow me to finish a level. I did not want to start all over again, so I just left.
It contained elements from all existing genrees, such as RTS, RPG, FPS etc.

The only time I ever had problems with Giants is when I was running ATi graphics cards. As soon as I switched to NVidia, all those "bugs" went away (buggy drivers is more like it). Now I'm back to using ATi products again and can STILL play Giants from start to finish (no bugs, nothing but fun). No idea if the 1.4 patch helped the game or not but I did apply every patch that came out.

There's nothing wrong with the game in it's current form as long as it's updated with the current patch. There are no "bugs" in the game. The bugs are (or were) in the video drivers. By the way, there is a little "mod" out there that allows you to play ALL levels whenever you want and in whatever order you want. There are no cheats though so if you can only play games with "cheats enabled", this game is probably not for you.