Nvidia Filtering Techniques
neo-n
When will you give up?? if you pay hundreds of $ or £ for a card you expect it to be fast and have as good IQ as the card its replacing. Not everyone is a dumb noob or a hardcore gamer, there a a lot of stages in between. It seems like any time someone moans about IQ you say it doesnt matter. You need to wake up and realise it does matter. Some of us have mved on from GF4s, not because they cant play the games, but because we like our games to be fast and look good. By the way a lot of hardcore gamers turn off the extras not to boost speed ( 200 or 300 FPS makes no difference in quake3 ) they turn it off to make the game easier to play, less 'clutter'.
neo-n
I agree that what matters is the final output rather than how it gets there, but the fact remains that some areas of the image are being degraded to 'make way' for flashier shader effects. The result may still look good but people are noticing...
Mmm_Beefy
so let me see if i understand you right... because the average joe pc user doesnt know their getting cheated/inferior products... Myself, and others that do know (either by taking time out and reading up ourselves, or working in the industry), should allow ourselves to get ripped off/feel cheated because of them? and as for the hardcore gamers.. they cut the stuff out to see you better (like neo said.. clutter) NOT for speed. i'm for what works, i went from Diamond, to S3 Virge, to matrox, to 3dfx, to nvidia, and now i'll soon go to ati.
neo-n
You agree.. thats a surprise... Your right in that it is about gaming in the end for most. However i have a business to run and my customer ask for certain machines when they return. They dont know what card is in the machine. They all ask for radeon powered computers.. Without knowing it. Some get quite distressed when they find out. I find that very interesting. I know for a fact that its influenced a number of people into getting R3x0 powered cards for their own PC.
El_Coyote
yu might be gullible enough to accept being ripped off, but I for sure am not, so quit your trolling.
neo-n
Why are they defending it ? brand loyalty is one thing and is understandable on something like a car, but a graphics card is something else entirely and such loyalty is very sad. Right now i like ATI but if the new XGI boards are better ill dump ATI in a heart beat. Whether you can see it or not (thats debatable) when i pay 500 whatevers for a card i expect trilinier filtering. Nvidia arent offering it right now so they are off the list.. end of story. Some people need to grow up and change loyalties.. not to ATI but to themselves.
neo-n
Ok fine thats cool if you need linux and pro app support, but your first point is wrong.. Radeon drivers are fine and faster. I use multi monitors on my raddy perfectly well thanks. Smartshaders will be important soon enough.. just wait. I agree that AA and AF arent everything, but how about real DX9 support ? All three are pretty darn fundamental now, but nvidia offers little in all of them. All of your wants dont take away from the fact that your defending something for which there is no reasonable defence. Point out the FXs strengths by all means, but dont make excuses for its shortcomings..
Mmm_Beefy
erm come again? you missed my point...
neo-n
Yes you can.. i can.
neo-n
Wow you really are brainwashed... Look ATI now has the best 2D, AA and AF. Not everyone plays fast action games. there are other types you know. Maybe your not clever enough to play them.. thats tyhe way it looks anyway. Do you have both cards ?? i have many examples of both and you can see it a mile away. In the end its hardly the point, you pay best prices you expect best IQ.. with the FX you dont get it.
neo-n
Linking to Rage3d is pointless. Its full of idiotic nvidia fanboys like you now. I dont know anyone whos having major problems. If the 3.8s dont work for you use the 3.7s . geez...
neo-n
Well duh.... many CAN !! At least the ones that havent got nvidias money in the bank (like toms).
