Dark Biene
Hi Folks
i got a question
i use a XP2600+ (166mhz) and i thought, it's time to upgrade to a xp3200+ (no 64)
do u think, i can do it an get an extra perfomance boost, or is the "power" nearly the same?
i got a question
i use a XP2600+ (166mhz) and i thought, it's time to upgrade to a xp3200+ (no 64)
do u think, i can do it an get an extra perfomance boost, or is the "power" nearly the same?
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ThudZ3ro
get a XP2600-M from newegg, they overclock great! have a 3200 that max's out at 2.5 ghz, have hit 2.8 with the 2500 and 2600 Mobile chips with air-cooling. Am not pimping their products but can't find the Mobile proc's anywhere else:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?...ycodevalue=4181
I see that they have a XP3000-M on there now too but haven't tried one yet...
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?...ycodevalue=4181
I see that they have a XP3000-M on there now too but haven't tried one yet...
tobebana
mmmh
i wouldn´t change it
if you upgrade, go to fx53 :D
i wouldn´t change it
if you upgrade, go to fx53 :D
Dark Biene
OP
first: i don't want to overclock anything in my pc
second: who gives me the money for a fx-53?
*smile*
second: who gives me the money for a fx-53?
*smile*
tobebana
don't upgrade for now.
Anonymous
yes wait ...
the athlon 64 is OK ... even tho the 64bit are useless at that time
wait for sockel 939 ... its much better and does have a future
maybe its even dualcore compatible ... which will make it worth
DUAL core ... DUAL channel ... RAID ... everythign si going dual :D
the athlon 64 is OK ... even tho the 64bit are useless at that time
wait for sockel 939 ... its much better and does have a future
maybe its even dualcore compatible ... which will make it worth
DUAL core ... DUAL channel ... RAID ... everythign si going dual :D
ShockaR
Whats wrong with thx FX53???
Actually I was going to buy a whole new pc and get the 3000+ but a friend of mine (who knows alot about PC's) said wait for the socket 939 so yep. I hope the prices come down quick for the socket 939's because they cost wayyyy toooo much right now :knife:
Actually I was going to buy a whole new pc and get the 3000+ but a friend of mine (who knows alot about PC's) said wait for the socket 939 so yep. I hope the prices come down quick for the socket 939's because they cost wayyyy toooo much right now :knife:
Anonymous
many ppl. already made reviews ... just search the mainpage
one of the biggest adv. are DUAL channel interface and other stuff
and as said ... the 754 is already dead there will be one or two more CPUs and then its dead
sure the 939 is expensive ... it was just released and motherboards need to be develloped
one of the biggest adv. are DUAL channel interface and other stuff
and as said ... the 754 is already dead there will be one or two more CPUs and then its dead
sure the 939 is expensive ... it was just released and motherboards need to be develloped
ShockaR
How long do you estimate will it take for the 939's to drop in price?
airm4n
lol you guys talking about needing upgrading while i'm still on my thunderbird 1.2 and my p3 700.
Davio
Sure, you can keep upgrading over such little changes if you have the cash.
I for me use larger timespans to upgrade as my bank account does'nt reach that high in the plus.
Besides, it's holiday time, so no money for the Computer Bizz. :)
I for me use larger timespans to upgrade as my bank account does'nt reach that high in the plus.
Besides, it's holiday time, so no money for the Computer Bizz. :)
ThudZ3ro
since you're not into overclocking wait until the 939 platform becomes the new standard (socket A is staying for a while too, new CPU's from AMD soon). The clock speed difference from the 2600 to the 3200 won't be very noticeable, at least not as much as having twice the L2 cache with the 3200. Since you have memory that'll run faster why not try a slight FSB kick? You can always turn it back if there's problems. As you may know CPU's are not manufactured by speed but are labeled by the speed that they run stable at. I mentioned the Mobile socket A Barton's because they have a 1.45 volt core voltage and offer the best bang for the buck by far. You WILL get a noticeable difference from the 2600 for less than $90.00 US and it will run cooler as well.
939 not only gives dual channel but unregistered and faster, cheaper memory support as well as quicker hypertransport bus speed. I'm waiting for the prices to drop before upgrading the box I'm on at the moment (two-yr old Gigabyte GA7VRXP 2.0 w/XP2200+, a "test mule"). Too bad a bunch of us here couldn't eventually get it together to buy a batch of FX's in bulk at one time to save money...
939 not only gives dual channel but unregistered and faster, cheaper memory support as well as quicker hypertransport bus speed. I'm waiting for the prices to drop before upgrading the box I'm on at the moment (two-yr old Gigabyte GA7VRXP 2.0 w/XP2200+, a "test mule"). Too bad a bunch of us here couldn't eventually get it together to buy a batch of FX's in bulk at one time to save money...
Dark Biene
OP
ok
thanx @all
so, the end is... don't upgrade, wait for S939
thanx @all
so, the end is... don't upgrade, wait for S939
goliath
well im a gamer on a small budget so i always think that getting yesteryears performance parts are the best as the new generation products may give u future upgrade potential but are far more expensive
i deliberatly got a socket 754 athlon 64 as the price has dropped by £100 in 2 months and it was affordable
also i brought the radeon 9800pro. admittedly the new x800s are far better but realistcly none of 2days cpus will drive them to their real limits. also the performance part of an outdated gpu will give high detail on almost all games (my friends ti 4600 now almost 3 yrs old looks just as good as mine and he has 2x AA enabled)
the reason this is is because the GPU manufacterers new mid range tend to be slower than the previous high end (look at 5600 vs ti 4200!!)
hope this helps
i deliberatly got a socket 754 athlon 64 as the price has dropped by £100 in 2 months and it was affordable
also i brought the radeon 9800pro. admittedly the new x800s are far better but realistcly none of 2days cpus will drive them to their real limits. also the performance part of an outdated gpu will give high detail on almost all games (my friends ti 4600 now almost 3 yrs old looks just as good as mine and he has 2x AA enabled)
the reason this is is because the GPU manufacterers new mid range tend to be slower than the previous high end (look at 5600 vs ti 4200!!)
hope this helps
ShockaR
Well i've always believed, 'the newer, the better' :beer:
Cellar_Dweller
I'll go across the grain - because I just upgraded from a 2700+ to a 3200+
One of course is NOT BARTON and the other is - so what I've done is taken the 2700+ from this system and placed it on a A7N8X Deluxe v1.0 board because that is close to the highest it can use and placed the 3200+ on this system which is a A7N8X Deluxe v2.0 board which the 3200+ is the highest it can go...
Bottom line is now I have two PC's just because I slapped down 170 for the 3200+...
Both systems rock and you can't really tell a difference between the two in speeds - NOT BY THE EYE that is - games run smoother and applications etc. and the benches show the increase but it's truly hard to tell how much of a difference it was between the two...
One of course is NOT BARTON and the other is - so what I've done is taken the 2700+ from this system and placed it on a A7N8X Deluxe v1.0 board because that is close to the highest it can use and placed the 3200+ on this system which is a A7N8X Deluxe v2.0 board which the 3200+ is the highest it can go...
Bottom line is now I have two PC's just because I slapped down 170 for the 3200+...
Both systems rock and you can't really tell a difference between the two in speeds - NOT BY THE EYE that is - games run smoother and applications etc. and the benches show the increase but it's truly hard to tell how much of a difference it was between the two...
goliath
newer doesnt always mean better
the new prescotts have shown no notable performance increase over the northwoods
also the 9600/9500 and geforce fx5600/ti 4200
but if he doesnt have enough money theren hes better off geting the old performance parts rather than the slowest of the newest type as chances are that the older one will b faster (maybe also more stable)
the new prescotts have shown no notable performance increase over the northwoods
also the 9600/9500 and geforce fx5600/ti 4200
but if he doesnt have enough money theren hes better off geting the old performance parts rather than the slowest of the newest type as chances are that the older one will b faster (maybe also more stable)
ShockaR
I've got £450 to buy a new pc. I was going to get one this week monday but a friend of mine told me about the socket 939's and now im waiting. Once the prices go down, im going to buy a socket 939 chip, which one do you advice?
Anonymous
actually you can buy 3 types
the core is "newcastle"
the 3500+
which is 2200 MHz 512kB L2
3700+ @ 2400 512
or you go for the absolute high end
FX-53 3800+ 2400 1024kB
later the FX-55 will come
actually its not really a question of the speed ... more it is a question of money ... since you pay 3500 to 3800 nearly double the price
so I would go for 3500 and try to overclock it
since the CPU is very fast "itself" the clock does not matter that much ...
just like DDR and SD ... when you got DDR ir does not reall matter if ya got 333 or 400 or even dual channel ... you got DDR not SD is what matters ... same here
the core is "newcastle"
the 3500+
which is 2200 MHz 512kB L2
3700+ @ 2400 512
or you go for the absolute high end
FX-53 3800+ 2400 1024kB
later the FX-55 will come
actually its not really a question of the speed ... more it is a question of money ... since you pay 3500 to 3800 nearly double the price
so I would go for 3500 and try to overclock it
since the CPU is very fast "itself" the clock does not matter that much ...
just like DDR and SD ... when you got DDR ir does not reall matter if ya got 333 or 400 or even dual channel ... you got DDR not SD is what matters ... same here
goliath
ur gna have 2 wait bout 12 months 2 get a whole computer at £450 :wink:
i built my current system using 'old' components and the total was £680 (all the components were released over a yr ago!). this was with extensive price researching!
ive noticed that the prices go down to a point then stagnate. i had this when choosing my last gfx card as i wanted the ti4800 but couldnt get 1 for less than £115 before they all went
also now the 9800pro levels are dwindling but they still sell for £150+ even tho the x800pro is out
people buy them as they dont know bout the new technology or they know thats the best deal
can i ask y u want socket 939 as u can get 754 for so much less (and with current mobo prices u can upgrade the cpu and mobo later for not that much)?
i built my current system using 'old' components and the total was £680 (all the components were released over a yr ago!). this was with extensive price researching!
ive noticed that the prices go down to a point then stagnate. i had this when choosing my last gfx card as i wanted the ti4800 but couldnt get 1 for less than £115 before they all went
also now the 9800pro levels are dwindling but they still sell for £150+ even tho the x800pro is out
people buy them as they dont know bout the new technology or they know thats the best deal
can i ask y u want socket 939 as u can get 754 for so much less (and with current mobo prices u can upgrade the cpu and mobo later for not that much)?
ThudZ3ro
the newer the better doesn't apply to: vintage audio equipment, musical instruments, most alcoholic beverages, cheese, vintage automobiles, and a lot of other things my failing memory can't recall at my advanced age. Ya gotta have a good laugh every now and then, thanks for reminding me to. Hope a few others got one too, best wishes for a good healthy laugh to all...*S*
(I forgot to add recently "old' computer equipment as well, nothing like having stuff laying around to build test "mules" with to try beta software, reg hacks, software and other mods on so you don't end up hosing your main box)
(I forgot to add recently "old' computer equipment as well, nothing like having stuff laying around to build test "mules" with to try beta software, reg hacks, software and other mods on so you don't end up hosing your main box)
