the demo ran excellent on my 8500...

damm nvidia I knew there was a good reason I hated them,

people who still uses geforce 2 on their machine are not gamers because if they really were, they'd have try to update their machines long ago. :(

Maybe when mummy stops paying for your upgrades and you move out of home to goto colledge ect. you'll realise not everyone can buy a R9700 just to play a FPS. Besides, alienating a huge section of the market (survey's have shown higher level vid cards are still only used by a smaller part of computer users, compared to those with say a Dell ect.) to hurry a release is bad business practice.