So, the fact that final 6800 Ultras might be faster is 'ATi junkies clinging on to hopeless ideas'? Some interesting reverse psychology there...

HAHA yea no doubt. I normally dont post, but when I see ppl talking straight up stupid I have to respond. Granted I own an ATi card, Im not a sole user of ATi. I go with whats best and for along time now ATi has had the lead over Nvidia. Its more like this Nvidia guy trying to convince himself that the Nvidia card he purchased was worth it and in reality it has nothing to do with ATi users... Did it work? Are you convinced? Instead stfu and wait for the new Nvidia cards to come out as well as let ATi bring out their new card. Dont try to compare the NEW Nvidia to the current/old ATi....

The core was underclocked on these review cards by 75mhz??? damn I wonder how hot the retail ones will be if they review boards were hitting 70C plus!

I'd wait and see what ATI release before announcing who's king. Non of us know, its pure speculation.