Rosco
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Who is this "Anonymous" and why is this Internet Trolling being put up as a new posting? Andrew K. and his ranting about Firefox is being disputed all over the place, and every time he updates his so called informative blog it gets put in the news? It's trolling garbage, pure and simple.
You want proof? Here it is.
http://secunia.com/product/11/
http://secunia.com/product/4227/
Please stop using Firefox Myths as a news resource. If there is an issue with Firefox it should come from a reputable source.
Who is this "Anonymous" and why is this Internet Trolling being put up as a new posting? Andrew K. and his ranting about Firefox is being disputed all over the place, and every time he updates his so called informative blog it gets put in the news? It's trolling garbage, pure and simple.
You want proof? Here it is.
http://secunia.com/product/11/
http://secunia.com/product/4227/
Please stop using Firefox Myths as a news resource. If there is an issue with Firefox it should come from a reputable source.
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Dark Biene
so...
we have to tidy/clean up some things here, esp. News etc, we know
i hope the HQ here can do it
we have to tidy/clean up some things here, esp. News etc, we know
i hope the HQ here can do it
Rosco
OP
That would be wonderful. I enjoy the news postings, even the dreaded console news doesn't bother me. But when FUD starts showing up posted by "Anonymous" as news it can certainly bring into question news resources.
Anonymous
:-?
I don't know what so wrong with this article ...
I mean .... I really like FF ... I love all the extensions and stuff
After reading the myths I have tried Opera and I deinstalled it 5min later
but I still think its a good article .... it is indeed somekind of biased
but most of the things are true ....
ppl. really do start to believe that FF is the cure to all evil ... with FF you are 100% safe and so on .... but this is simply not true
in fact there are many things that I dislike of firefox ... but currently it has the more pros then cons
but thats not a reason to bash anybody that is not fully convinced of FF ...
why not just skip the article and read something else
I don't know what so wrong with this article ...
I mean .... I really like FF ... I love all the extensions and stuff
After reading the myths I have tried Opera and I deinstalled it 5min later
but I still think its a good article .... it is indeed somekind of biased
but most of the things are true ....
ppl. really do start to believe that FF is the cure to all evil ... with FF you are 100% safe and so on .... but this is simply not true
in fact there are many things that I dislike of firefox ... but currently it has the more pros then cons
but thats not a reason to bash anybody that is not fully convinced of FF ...
why not just skip the article and read something else
Rosco
OP
Yea, I know. But to me it just seems more like trolling than news. Nothing
wrong with a good debate, I enjoy one myself. If I am off base though for
my suggestion though I apologize.
wrong with a good debate, I enjoy one myself. If I am off base though for
my suggestion though I apologize.
Rosco
OP
so...
we have to tidy/clean up some things here, esp. News etc, we know
i hope the HQ here can do it
Now Mastertech is allowed to pimp his web site himself every week? He has his own post now on the front page.
Hancoque
Strange. Where is my post in this thread? The last time I looked the thread was missing completely, now it's back but without my post. Topic subscription is still active, though...
Dark Biene
yep, i was , too because of the "lost" of this thread....dunno what happend :hmm:
TSThomas
Firefox Myths misrepresents & misquotes sources - refusing to remove those misquoted or misrepresented - (Myself included). Here's 6 such Quotse from Firefox Myths;
"...Good stuff - give it a read." - Asa
Actual comment - "Robert Accettura has a nice response to the poorly constructed & mostly worthless article Firefox Myths. Good stuff - give it a read".
"It's an interesting read..." - Robert A.
Actual comment - "Someone looking for their 5 minutes of fame (obviously not worth 15 minutes) decided to post some Firefox Myths. It´s an interesting read, though has a few oddball statements, that really don´t make sense".
"I'm not a big fan of evangelism or hyperbole, so when a page called "Firefox Myths" entered my radar recently, I was very interested." - Tre
Actual comment - "I´m not a big fan of evangelism or hyperbole, so when a page called “Firefox Myths†entered my radar recently, I was very interested. Then sadly disappointed. Rather than a balanced analysis of some of the folklore surrounding Firefox, it is merely a stream of weak arguments against imaginary “myths†supported by misquoting or deliberate misreading of sources. I´m not even going to reference the page".
"The sources & data are convincing..." - Ryan J. (Editor note - this should start "...the sources")
Actual comment - "Even though the sources & data are convincing, I see nothing pro-Firefox there - notice no links about IE's insecuity I wonder why."
"...your web pages are actually pretty good: I personally link to Secure XP" - MrFlibble
Actual comment - "What is clear is that Mastertech has unbelievable energy for incessantly persuing the same arguments over & over & over again, he is entirely incapable of admitting that anybody else has a valid point of view, let alone might actually have anything to add to the discussion that might contradict his pre-set notions, & will never give up until he has the last word on this subject, or until he finds the last internet forum on the planet to post in again & start up the whole argument again. Mastertech, I personally don't care if you have a bee in your bonnet about Firefox. I don't care if you see yourself as some kind of "Master Technician" come to save us from falacy. Personally I think you are becoming the "laughing stock of the internet." I don't care how many forums you post your articles/blogs/web pages in. Just know that you have attracted a lot of attention now, so posting 1 of your articles & talking about the author in the third person isn't going to work anymore. Admit authorship for what you write & post. Anybody Googling you past postings can see you have been dishonest. Some of your web pages are actually pretty good: I personally link to Secure XP, but as far as I am concerned you are a busted flush".
"...all web sites are IE compliant, use a browser with IE engine & tabs, & a fully patched system = 100% security." - FreewheelinFrank
Actual comment - "This includes 1 of Mastertech's typical phrases designed to suggest he is not the author ('Makes interesting reading') but then goes on to use the first person. Strange- that would be the first time for Mastertech. The notions are his: all web sites are IE compliant, use a browser with IE engine & tabs, & a fully patched system = 100% security."
"Mozilla Firefox is a great web browser, but its praise is not without its share of exaggerations. ...Internet Explorer typically starts up faster than Firefox... Firefox is by no means perfectly safe. Users still have to use reasonable caution when downloading files & plugins from untrusted websites. Firefox ... does not yet have complete support for the current CSS, DOM, or even HTML standards." - David H.
Actual comments - "Internet Explorer typically starts up faster than Firefox the first time you double-click on the program icon. This is mainly because the core Internet Explorer engine is actually loaded into memory as your computer is starting up. Furthermore, not all components of the web browser are in memory when the browser window comes up. Some components, such as the favorites manager, are only loaded into memory when you access them, while Firefox loads everything at once.
Something as complex as a web browser will almost certainly have security vulnerabilities crop up from time to time. No major web browser has a perfect security record. There are some fundamental differences between the architecture of Firefox compared to Internet Explorer with regard to security, & Mozilla has shown a much better record than Microsoft at fixing its browser's vulnerabilities, as shown in this security summary, but Firefox is by no means perfectly safe. Users still have to use reasonable caution when manually downloading files & plugins from untrusted websites.
No web browser is 100% standards compliant. The web technology standards are very extensive & it often takes many years to implement all of the features of a standard, plus additional time to fix the bugs. In addition, the standards are always evolving & becoming more & more robust. Firefox (along with Opera, Safari, & Konqueror) is certainly a leader in the field of standards support, & is quickly adopting new emerging technologies, but it, like the others, does not yet have complete support for the current CSS, DOM, or even HTML standards. More information is available in this standards support summary".
"Any browser is more secure by not supporting... Firefox. All Browsers have vulnerabilities... No Browser can claim... to be 100% standards compliant" - Thom (Editors note - This is actually me)
Actual comments (i.e. this thread) - "Any browser is more secure by not supporting ActiveX, not just Firefox.
All Browsers have vulnerabilities (& more will be discovered); what's more important than the number of vulnerabilities is how quickly they are patched & in that regard Firefox has a proven record of being quite secure much of the time, Opera also proved extremely responsive in this regard.
No Browser can claim (Or ever has claimed for that matter) to be 100% standards compliant. However, both Firefox & Opera clearly have made significant movement in this area while IE 6 lags well behind in all but 1 area".
For more you can read my own post;
http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic44405.html
Mastertech - the author (Or Andrew K, or what aliases you know him as) has been banned from dozens of forums for his blatant self promotion, lying about his identity (As confirmed by IP) & refusal to answer Mod questions, most obviously - why do you persist in misquoting people to make it appear that are promoting Firefox Myths;
http://episteme.arstechnica.com/groupee/fo...58005957731/p/1
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic...40308352&page=3
"...Good stuff - give it a read." - Asa
Actual comment - "Robert Accettura has a nice response to the poorly constructed & mostly worthless article Firefox Myths. Good stuff - give it a read".
"It's an interesting read..." - Robert A.
Actual comment - "Someone looking for their 5 minutes of fame (obviously not worth 15 minutes) decided to post some Firefox Myths. It´s an interesting read, though has a few oddball statements, that really don´t make sense".
"I'm not a big fan of evangelism or hyperbole, so when a page called "Firefox Myths" entered my radar recently, I was very interested." - Tre
Actual comment - "I´m not a big fan of evangelism or hyperbole, so when a page called “Firefox Myths†entered my radar recently, I was very interested. Then sadly disappointed. Rather than a balanced analysis of some of the folklore surrounding Firefox, it is merely a stream of weak arguments against imaginary “myths†supported by misquoting or deliberate misreading of sources. I´m not even going to reference the page".
"The sources & data are convincing..." - Ryan J. (Editor note - this should start "...the sources")
Actual comment - "Even though the sources & data are convincing, I see nothing pro-Firefox there - notice no links about IE's insecuity I wonder why."
"...your web pages are actually pretty good: I personally link to Secure XP" - MrFlibble
Actual comment - "What is clear is that Mastertech has unbelievable energy for incessantly persuing the same arguments over & over & over again, he is entirely incapable of admitting that anybody else has a valid point of view, let alone might actually have anything to add to the discussion that might contradict his pre-set notions, & will never give up until he has the last word on this subject, or until he finds the last internet forum on the planet to post in again & start up the whole argument again. Mastertech, I personally don't care if you have a bee in your bonnet about Firefox. I don't care if you see yourself as some kind of "Master Technician" come to save us from falacy. Personally I think you are becoming the "laughing stock of the internet." I don't care how many forums you post your articles/blogs/web pages in. Just know that you have attracted a lot of attention now, so posting 1 of your articles & talking about the author in the third person isn't going to work anymore. Admit authorship for what you write & post. Anybody Googling you past postings can see you have been dishonest. Some of your web pages are actually pretty good: I personally link to Secure XP, but as far as I am concerned you are a busted flush".
"...all web sites are IE compliant, use a browser with IE engine & tabs, & a fully patched system = 100% security." - FreewheelinFrank
Actual comment - "This includes 1 of Mastertech's typical phrases designed to suggest he is not the author ('Makes interesting reading') but then goes on to use the first person. Strange- that would be the first time for Mastertech. The notions are his: all web sites are IE compliant, use a browser with IE engine & tabs, & a fully patched system = 100% security."
"Mozilla Firefox is a great web browser, but its praise is not without its share of exaggerations. ...Internet Explorer typically starts up faster than Firefox... Firefox is by no means perfectly safe. Users still have to use reasonable caution when downloading files & plugins from untrusted websites. Firefox ... does not yet have complete support for the current CSS, DOM, or even HTML standards." - David H.
Actual comments - "Internet Explorer typically starts up faster than Firefox the first time you double-click on the program icon. This is mainly because the core Internet Explorer engine is actually loaded into memory as your computer is starting up. Furthermore, not all components of the web browser are in memory when the browser window comes up. Some components, such as the favorites manager, are only loaded into memory when you access them, while Firefox loads everything at once.
Something as complex as a web browser will almost certainly have security vulnerabilities crop up from time to time. No major web browser has a perfect security record. There are some fundamental differences between the architecture of Firefox compared to Internet Explorer with regard to security, & Mozilla has shown a much better record than Microsoft at fixing its browser's vulnerabilities, as shown in this security summary, but Firefox is by no means perfectly safe. Users still have to use reasonable caution when manually downloading files & plugins from untrusted websites.
No web browser is 100% standards compliant. The web technology standards are very extensive & it often takes many years to implement all of the features of a standard, plus additional time to fix the bugs. In addition, the standards are always evolving & becoming more & more robust. Firefox (along with Opera, Safari, & Konqueror) is certainly a leader in the field of standards support, & is quickly adopting new emerging technologies, but it, like the others, does not yet have complete support for the current CSS, DOM, or even HTML standards. More information is available in this standards support summary".
"Any browser is more secure by not supporting... Firefox. All Browsers have vulnerabilities... No Browser can claim... to be 100% standards compliant" - Thom (Editors note - This is actually me)
Actual comments (i.e. this thread) - "Any browser is more secure by not supporting ActiveX, not just Firefox.
All Browsers have vulnerabilities (& more will be discovered); what's more important than the number of vulnerabilities is how quickly they are patched & in that regard Firefox has a proven record of being quite secure much of the time, Opera also proved extremely responsive in this regard.
No Browser can claim (Or ever has claimed for that matter) to be 100% standards compliant. However, both Firefox & Opera clearly have made significant movement in this area while IE 6 lags well behind in all but 1 area".
For more you can read my own post;
http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic44405.html
Mastertech - the author (Or Andrew K, or what aliases you know him as) has been banned from dozens of forums for his blatant self promotion, lying about his identity (As confirmed by IP) & refusal to answer Mod questions, most obviously - why do you persist in misquoting people to make it appear that are promoting Firefox Myths;
http://episteme.arstechnica.com/groupee/fo...58005957731/p/1
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic...40308352&page=3
dimvlaan
Tell me, who realy cares?
Use Firefox, Opera and IE. They al have pros and cons.
I chose this set to be my favorites... IE for daily use; Firefox rather seldom - more for testing purposes, Opera for the "unsafe-looking" sites. (easy to turn off the features as scripting, etc. via F12).
Everyone has his/her favorite browser. Like everyone has his favorite OS, graphic acceleration card, cpu, ... keep it going.
Cut this bullshiting around about who posts what and why it is worth a post on the first page. Let everyone decide for themselves, what to use. Let them decide what to read.
Stop that dumb flaming. It sucks!
Use Firefox, Opera and IE. They al have pros and cons.
I chose this set to be my favorites... IE for daily use; Firefox rather seldom - more for testing purposes, Opera for the "unsafe-looking" sites. (easy to turn off the features as scripting, etc. via F12).
Everyone has his/her favorite browser. Like everyone has his favorite OS, graphic acceleration card, cpu, ... keep it going.
Cut this bullshiting around about who posts what and why it is worth a post on the first page. Let everyone decide for themselves, what to use. Let them decide what to read.
Stop that dumb flaming. It sucks!
