and still i sit, with my first gen Hercules GameTheaterXP... rarely have driver updates... of course.. i rarely need driver updates. i havnt purchased or recommended a Creative product since they crushed Aureal. too bad creative dont put that A3d code to work for em... it blew EAX away:)

It blew away frame rates too.

lol

So whats different about this card? it adds 7.1 and ups the SNR right? "EAX 4.0 ADVANCED HD support" is that in Audigy 2 or not? maybe there will be some driver hacks thx

no I think it is EAX 3.0 ...... any words on whats the difference ? A3D better then EAX .... I don't think so .... my first 3D audio card was with A3D support ... and it was a step into right direction but it was not fully working ... and ... a simply BS ... then I got SB Live with EAX which worked perfectly is supportet by most games .... and gives good sound ... e.g. Warcraft 3 is really funny when u play inside mine or something like that ... or Dungeon Siege or whatsoever .... EAX just works .... there are only some games ... which do not support EAX even when you have original SB card .... but thats not regular and in 99% fault of the game itselfe

yes A3D was better than EAX.. all EAX is basically is Reverb.. the lousy fps probs in some games (Halfllife played just fine for me with A3D enabled) was due to the lack of driver development.. they was busy fighting creative in the courts. i think if A3D woulda recieved the same amount of dev time that Creative had with EAX it could have been much much better. i can think of plenty of games that go tits up when EAX is enabled. including choppy frames to hard locks... plus i dont much like how creative just dropped the SBLive owners when the Audigy came out... cheers all