Yes "POS" cards that sound better than any current Creative card. Ignorance can be bliss it seems.

LOL! Nice Thomas! Yea, the Creative always sounds great, after they release a patch to make a current game sound as good as they do on other cards. I'll hang on to my Turtle Beach, never a popping-crackling sound problem with that. Or, for that matter, my Eavy24 onboard.