I don't know what the excitement is over these IM proggies. I use Trillian Pro, and I'm not ever going back to anything else. I don't need the new flash and bloatware M$ has prolly injected in the newsest breathen of MSN Messenger.

im with ya on that :)

Hrm... Trillian would be the best yes. And those bugs in Trillian may be on your end because I dont have those problems or have I ever. What features does ICQ have that Trillian doesnt? Oh and you can have that seperate control for ease of logged on or off status in Trillian with ICQ also :)

wtf u talking about dude works perfect for me emoticons AND custom ones work great. Craziest msn ever!