goliath
is this card better than a 9600pro AIW / 9600XT? i can get all the cards at the same price. also is this 9800se soft moddable?
does anyone know any 3dmark scores that the 9800se gets without softmod? there is 1 review i have read: http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/radeon/sapphire-4.html
this indicates this card is crap, as the 5600 and 9600 pro beat it. i find this hard 2 believe as the 9800se is meant to be a crippled 9800 and the 5600 is a crippled 5800, which speakes for itself. with the 9800 chip, albeit disabled shouldnt this be able to beat the tis and most fxs, which have 4 pipelines? as this is based on the 9800 core, shouldnt the DX9 games be way better than the 9600xt, or am i gna be wasting £160?
does anyone know any 3dmark scores that the 9800se gets without softmod? there is 1 review i have read: http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/radeon/sapphire-4.html
this indicates this card is crap, as the 5600 and 9600 pro beat it. i find this hard 2 believe as the 9800se is meant to be a crippled 9800 and the 5600 is a crippled 5800, which speakes for itself. with the 9800 chip, albeit disabled shouldnt this be able to beat the tis and most fxs, which have 4 pipelines? as this is based on the 9800 core, shouldnt the DX9 games be way better than the 9600xt, or am i gna be wasting £160?
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El_Coyote
stay.away.from.9x00se.
KillerKebab
AIW cards dont have extra power, but they do have a load of features.
goliath
OP
features aside, will the 9800se be faster than the 9600 pro with the 256bit memory, with and without eye candy?
also what is the bandwidth of the card as i cant work it out. :oops:
also what is the bandwidth of the card as i cant work it out. :oops:
KillerKebab
Memory:
I'll give an example, using my graphics card, a Radeon 9700 Pro.
Memory type / 8 * Speed * 2
256bit / 8 = 32
620Mhz - since thats DDR half it, so 310.
Multiply by 2, since it is DDR.
So..
32 * 310 * 2 = 19840 Mb/s.
Now I think thats right, but I'm not totally sure.
I'll give an example, using my graphics card, a Radeon 9700 Pro.
Memory type / 8 * Speed * 2
256bit / 8 = 32
620Mhz - since thats DDR half it, so 310.
Multiply by 2, since it is DDR.
So..
32 * 310 * 2 = 19840 Mb/s.
Now I think thats right, but I'm not totally sure.
Anonymous
argh made bad experiences with 9800se softmod ... ati got real reasons to deaktivate the 4 Pixelpipelines ... you will always have artifact in some games more in some games less if not the unoverseeable checkerboard effect so go 9800 PRO or not but softmodding is toooo risky
goliath
OP
but with 4 pipelines active, wouldnt this card be able to finish off the 9600 pro and all geofece 4tis as it has the supposedly best chip?
KillerKebab
Beating a 9600Pro and GeForce 4 ti's, however interesting, just isn't enough for some :)
goliath
OP
i have seen the 7900 non ultra for £170; BUT it has 400/250 clock; will the 5900 or the 9800se AIW be a wiser investment? what would a 5900 get in benches and will the slow memory be such a bane?
also, for the tv card on the AIW will i be able to use a regular tv aerial or will i have 2 use a proper 1 from the cabling? also, where can i find an fm raio tuner aerial?
also, for the tv card on the AIW will i be able to use a regular tv aerial or will i have 2 use a proper 1 from the cabling? also, where can i find an fm raio tuner aerial?
KillerKebab
I can't answer any questions in that, bar one. If you want to know scores, use google. There should be a plethora of results.
goliath
OP
ive seen the 9800se for £146.16
the problem is that the 5900xt is £149 : GF FX5900XT 128MB DDR AGP DVI
which card is better? i have no idea about this 5900xt (did a google search with no useful help)
which card is faster?
the problem is that the 5900xt is £149 : GF FX5900XT 128MB DDR AGP DVI
which card is better? i have no idea about this 5900xt (did a google search with no useful help)
which card is faster?
KillerKebab
rofl 5900XT?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
