When is a Barton not a Barton?
I have just bought an XP2800+ CPU and after having benchmarked my system for the last few days trying several different fsb settings, i was wondering why there was little or no improvement in my scores etc over my last Thoroughbred B 2100+ clocked at 200x11.5 (2205mhz)...... well after searching the net for any info on this chip and why this particular cpu has only 256kb L2 cache instead of 512 i realised that it is infact a Thoroughbred B and not a Barton as it was advertised! I didn't even know AMD made 2800+ B's?

Has anyone else been conned into buying one of these?

I'll refrain from slagging off the supplier at the present time, i'll wait n see if they exchange it first.........:roll:

... the first thing you do now is post THE FULL code on your CPU here ... then we go on

Check out this link, shows that the 2800+ did come out with 256K cache.
http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/2002100...00-01.html

Doh silly me!

here's the steppings on it....

AXDA2800DKV3D 9602366283767 AIUGB 0231MPMW.
It's the "3" after the "KV" that says it has 256kb L2 Cache and not 512kb that a Barton has.

Oh well, it's back to the shop with this then as it ain't worth keeping over my previous T/bred B, guess the minimul speed increase don't justify the cost :roll:

Think i'll wait for the FX's to drop in price a bit before the next cpu upgrade :roll: just tryin to squeeze even more juice out of my nice new 9800Pro AIW.......

My system specs:- ASUS A7N8X Deluxe Nforce2 Computer:-

ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe Rev1.4, Bios 1004, using onboard Soundstorm.
Athlon Tbred B 2.1 - 200fsbx11.5 (2205)
1GB Corsair TwinX pc3200 DDR
Thermaltake Volcano 9
W.Digital 40GB 8MB cache, Maxtor 120GB ATA133 HDD's, Maxtor SATA 160GB ATA150.
ATI 9800PRO AIW. cat 3.7 (was an ASUS GF4 TI4600 Det 40.72)
onboard Nvidia Lan
Plextor 40x20x48 CDRW
Pioneer 106 4X-/+DVD/RW
Enermax 350 watt psu
Samcheer Black Alloy case 6 fans
17" AOC 720a TFT
Microfart office keyboard ( F lock's a pain in the arse!)
Logitech MX700 ( MS intellimouse explorer drivers tho!)
Motorola cable modem- 2mb internet
Win XP Pro SP1

3DMark 2001:- 15,358 (TI4600)
3DMark 2001:- 17,022 (ATI 9800pro AIW)
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6089526

someone just cheated you .... this simply is no Barton ... just look at the stepping and the production week/year ... give it back / RMA it !!

AIUGB B=TBredB
2002 The year of Barton !?

so you going to tell us who the dodgy supplier was then so we can avoid them?

Hmmm :hmm:
It's a company in Manchester, U.K. that's all i'm saying till i see if they refund me, if not then i'll be back to "spill the beans" on who they are and forewarn anyone else from buying a "fake" Barton... :roll:

I'll stick with my T/bred B she runs sweet 24/7 200x11 (2105) 1.7V, 40-45C stable..... may try upping the multi to see if i can get any more juice out of this puppy?


Funny thing is, i checked the link above for Toms Hardware guide and sure enough there is a T/bred B 2800+, but the pic shows a brown cpu, whereas mine is green! wt#? how many different 2800+ did AMD make? :hmm:

.... thats not sweet for a 2800 ....
my 2100+ AIUHB was 100% stable at 2200MHz 1,65V so go get a real barton

my XP2100+ A7N8X Deluxe 1.04 (1007 BIOS) has been bullet-proof at 2367. Get a 2500+ Barton and crank that fsb up...

That's my existing T/Bred B, xp2100+ @200x11. she does run sweet at 2105mhz 1.65v. 24/7

Taking this fake Barton back tomorrow and going for a 2500+ one instead, i've read great things about them cpu's.... Just hope i get a real one!

It's a Thorton. Exactly what you described (half the L2 cache with the same speeds as a Barton).

Side note: A 2800+ would not perform that much better (if at all) than an OCed CPU at 2.2GHz (effectively a 3200+). If you were expecting massive gains because of the Barton's extra cache, you waisted your money, I'm afraid.

Problem solved.........
i took it back to the shop and exchanged it for a Retail 2500+ Barton, and YES it is a Barton, i checked the steppings!

I read good reports about these chips so hopefully she'll " do the trick"? :wink: