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For Gods sake Warp2 stay with running a techy website. The multiplicity of views and opinions will swamp you. I'm becoming absolutely pissed off with all the armchair experts, here and in the news media, telling us how it should be done.

If this fiasco had been the social norm back in 1939 we, in England, would be part of Germany now and Europe, most likely, under Nazi rule. Hitler also had plans to invade the good ole USA. How'd yur like them apples?

Stop pissing about and show some pride in who you are what you are part of. If not, SOD OFF!!!!!!!!!

mikatek, its like when Rumsfeld stopped and asked a French heckler "do you speak German?" and the French heckler stopped and said "No" and Rumsfeld responded.... "Your Welcome".

Heheheh, im outta here.

How does distance make Iraq harmless to the US? Al Qaida was located in Afghanistan. The country is equally as far from the US as Iraq is, did that stop them from hitting the twin towers and DC?

5 American marines and 8 British commandos already paid for that. And theres much more America will pay to rebuild the country economically.

LOL where are you from? Your country spends all their money on building school and stuff and not worrying about their military? You know how immature that sounds? Wherever you are from, your country will do anything to defend itself too.

Our military does have weapons of mass destruction, and there are international laws that make it legal for us to have them. There are people that tell us not to. Thats why we reduced our nuclear warheads with the Soviets.


In my opinion, if you play nice to the stronger ones, you wouldnt end up getting your butt whooped like Saddam Hussein. Otherwise, you are safer than ever

sorry guys no offense but I think a mod should close this topic now because it will get really out of hand and possibly create problems as it has happened on my board at tech-critic.

Oh my god, I can't believe this. I had a simply HUGE response to Coelho's rubbish, and got an "invalid session" error when I submitted. Sigh, let me go back and rewrite it...

If the topic is closed when I'm finished, then I will be pissed

This is bound not to be half as good, because my heart isn't half in it now like it was, but here goes.

All peaceful efforts? The United States has tried for twelve years with the United Nations to disarm Iraq. The United Nations has proven that peaceful means are not possible.

I think that those who have lived in a dictatorship are the only ones able to truly decide and comment on how bad it is. It is not the United States decision, but the Iraqi people's decision as to what kind of government they will have after liberation.

Right...you know, I don't think Mr. Bush was around when a Russian veto prevented the United Nations from taking action in Kosovo. What was the result? I think they call it GENOCIDE. Thousands of ethnic Albanians were slaughtered, and the United States had to go in to stop it. How about when the United Nations wouldn't take action in Somalia? What was the result? Mass murder? The death of numerous United States troops? How about Rwanda. The United Nations were prohibited from protecting the people that were being SLAUGHTERED around them. Do we really have to get into the situation in Grenada?

How long? It took the United Nations twelve years to destroy missles that Iraq "didn't have." Iraq still refuses to confess to having weapons that they had in 1998, and they have provided no proof of getting rid of those weapons. Hans Blix has a list of about 15 or 20 things left that Iraq needed to declare...do we need to take 12 years for each of those items?

As are mine. My thoughts are also with these people: (Not for the weak stomached)

http://www.kdp.pp.se/chemical.html

Paulo Coelho is a hippie. Of course he's going to oppose the war. He opposes it solely because of emotion, not because of facts. I prefer to listen to another acclaimed author, Elie Wiesel, who is a survivor of Auschwitz, and wrote the novel "Night." He also funds the Elie Wiesel Foundation for Humanity. He is a huge advocator of PEACE in the world, but he also supports George Bush and the United States because of FACTS.

From reading the rest of this, this is the closest that he gets to being correct. It's all downhill from here.

Oops, no, he's still correct.

Sorry Paulo, you're incorrect with this statement. The United States withdrew their offer to Turkey, and Turkey's parliament has voted to let the US use their air space, and to station small numbers of troops for a northern front on Iraq.

You're a humorous man, Mr. Coelho. You need a reality check if you think over 90% of Britain, Spain, or even the two combined, are against war. In the latest British polls, only about 65% are against the war (this is a number that WAS over 85% a few weeks ago). In another British poll, 51% (FIFTY-ONE PERCENT) expressed COMPLETE CONFIDENCE in George W Bush.

Sorry, Paulo, maybe you need to listen to all of what Mr. Blair said.

Interestingly enough, you do not address any of the other information that Colin Powell exhibited., nor do you address the fact that Iraq is in violation of UN Resolution 678 through 1441, and that Hans Blix recognizes this, and that he is very critical of the Iraqi government.

I'm sorry, but you're infinitely incorrect here. A short list of some people that have received standing ovations from the United Nations:

Bill Clinton
Kofi Annan
Jean Chretien
Ralph Bunche
Fidel Castro
U Thant
Tony benn

Sorry, that's just a short list, I don't have the time to list all of them.

This is interesting as well. Are you talking about Oman, the UAE, Qatar, Turkey, and Kuwait? All of these countries support the United States, Mr. Coelho. Their populations, with the exception of Turkey, also support the United States. You must be talking about Saudi Arabia...sorry Mr. Coelho, but it's 5 vs 1 here.

Really, I'm sure you must be talking about countries like Pakistan, a country that is STILL on the fence and has not gone one way or the other, or perhaps you're talking about a country like Cameroon, a former French colony, that was on the border of supporting France, but now supports the United States.

Really...shouldn't he care what the British people think? Granted the majority of the British people are against war, I've already pointed out that their opinion is quickly changing.

Divide Europe? How is the United States dividing Europe? Jacques Chirac is the one that expressed is disdain for Eastern European countries who support the United States saying that they missed "the oppurtunity to keep their mouths shut." I'm sorry sir, but if you want somebody to blame for the division of Europe, you need to look into the heart of Europe itself.

Excuse me? I don't want to say that a world renowned author is wrong...but you're wrong. World opinion is not hardly as skewed towards anti-war sentiment as you make it seem. You forget that the United States has support from EVERY CONTINENT (except Antarctica, of course) The coalition that supports this war is second in quantity only to the coalition that was against the Germans in World War II. The United States has public support in mid-Africa, northern South America, central Central America, North America, eastern Europe, and southeastern Asia.

You really should source your quotes, Mr. Coelho. Being an author, you should know this. A quick internet search produced no results aside from your letter here on numerous leftist and anti-American websites. Maybe it's the translation, I don't know.

I'm still wondering who exactly "us" is...do you live with a couple of cockroaches? Because you didn't mention them in your leftist, anti-American, anti-Bush propaganda.

I ask you, who exactly should we listen to, Mr. Coelho? France? Russia? China? Turkey (before they let us in)? Germany?

Please, remind me of what good these countries have done in the past. Russia used extreme unilateral force in Chechnya (force that was publicly condemned by the United States). Is that why we should listen to them?

Of course, China has NEVER had a bad human rights record, right? Is this why we should listen to them?

Turkey? The country that committed genocide against millions of Armenians in the early 20th century. The country that has threatened to use force (unilateral force) against the virtually defenseless Kurds if they try to take Kirkuk back (a Kurdish city).

France? Why, because they want to keep their multi-billion dollar oil deals with Saddam and Jacques Chirac doesn't want his close personal friend to be removed from power?

Should we stop because of protestors? You know, those people that could be spending their time volunteering at a hospital or something to help people instead of taking up the precious time of our police forces when they could be out stopping significant crime somewhere.


In closing, God bless the troops fighting for our freedoms, and even bless all those protesters, as hypocritical as they may be.

People i regret the casualities of the loss of US and UK Marines and hopely no one will follow, it's the will of GOD and how the war wil ends too
i hope it will stay with this casualities, and i'm praying for the all the alied soldiers,and Iraki civillians wich will be freed.

God Bless the US and UK........

The only thing I want to relieve myself of is the hatred of the people protesting this war in large groups. You cannot be more selfish and hypocritical than these people are.

Of course not everyone wants to go to war, be it or not from an "aggressive" president that has pushed his power, slightly. But the fact is, that Sadam has in the past produced at least nuclear and chemical weapons. To hell with all the UN searches through Iraq...it took Sadam months to finally say, "Sure, come on in. I have nothing to hide"...what was he doing the months before he let the UN in?

Is it possible that he will hurl over a nuclear bomb at us?...not anytime soon. However...what's stopping him from giving chemicals to a terrorist group, and them catching a plan over here, and releasing them on us in a number of ways?

Well, we've all seen the point to the millions of dollars spent in several cities to increase security and safety. But how the hell are those officers supposed to do their job when there are childish baboons running around protesting the war? The police are going to be spending all their time controlling mobs of these pests, yet who will be the first to bitch and complain when we are hit with terrorism?

I don't think we should be at war either...but I understand that my view isn't going to stop Mr. Bush. But I'm not going to run out like a mindless animal trying to stop him. If you want to protest the war, don't do it in a mob where you distract and compromise the safety of the rest of us, please.

As a former US Army soldier I am 110% for the liberation of Iraq. As for protesting on a tech web-site I am 110% AGAINST IT!!! :evil: :evil: I would suit up again and and go kick Sadams ass any day of the week. You went from my favorite site to my least in one day. I would like to see all mention of the war removed from this site and let the tech world move on!

You Sir, are full of shit. :evil:

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but he is right. France, Britain, China, Russia, and the United States (maybe Germany?) are LEGALLY allowed to have nuclear weapons by the United Nations, as irrelevant as they are. Each of these countries has a few thousand nuclear warheads, and I can't speak for the others, but the United States' stockpile of chemical weapons (a few thousand) will be destroyed by 2004.

I'm sorry, but not everyone "things" that. I ask you to tell me how stopping Adolf Hitler from murdering even more Jewish people than the millions that he already did was bad. I ask you to tell me how stopping Turkish genocide of the Armenians was bad. I ask you to tell me how stopping genocide in Kosovo was bad. I ask you how stopping mass murder in Panama, Columbia, and Somalia have been bad. I also ask you how stopping Saddam Hussein, who has murdered more Muslims than anybody else in history, is bad.

Statements like this are the statements that give Americans bad names.

Do you honestly think that any of those countries have military forces capable?

If you're in the United States, then you're wrong. If you're in many Middle Eastern countries, then you're wrong. If you're in any of the countries that I mentioned earlier, then you're wrong. Don't think that just because we hear more of you means that you're the majority. By the way, the United States is not a Democracy, it is a Republic.

Yeah...who stopped genocide? Why I think the United States.

This is just a humorous, dillusional view. You really should be in school judging by all that you've said. You are simply not ready for the adult world.

Anti-US sentiment...this post is nothing more than emotional politics.

Next time you post your opinion against the war, back up why a Coalition shouldn't be involved in disarming Iraq by force, instead of attacking with babbling. You sound like Iraq's generals "they are stupid and they are condemned".....sounds like a 5 year old defending his opinion why there shouldn't be school.

And THANK GOD that you live in a country that allows you to have such an ignorant opinion, blinded by anti-US views. If you said something like that against Saddam and lived in Iraq, you've be hung on a pole with your throat cut and your tongue cut out.

How is not removing Saddam going to promote peace and security in Iraq and the surrounding regions? What would you do in this scenario? What would you do if you lived in the US and lost family members/friends in 9-11?

This post isn't about being against the WAR. Its about being Anti-US.

God BLESS the Coalition troops in the middle east. May this be a swift and decisive offensive. And lets not stay in Iraq one day longer than needs be.

-Sean

I say kill every last man woman child if it means cheaper gas,
turn them into slaves to pump the oil. If you buy gas or use anything plastic you support them, that makes you the enemy. :evil:

Look, I have to say something. I know this is a tech site, and for all purposes, it should stay that way. But when you start displaying opinions about something that is unrelated to what you do, then I believe I should say something. For the countries that are against this war and say the US is overstepping its bounds in going to war, didn't these countries say and do the same things with a guy named Hitler? What happened? I think it is hysterical how people accuse the US of overstepping its bounds. First of all, how many countries do we protect? And when I say we, I mean the UN, because 95% of the funding of the UN is ours. And how many countries do we give millions and millions of dollars to each year for support? Do you have any idea where Canada would be without the US? Who in their right mind would come and attack the USs neighbors? No one because we protect them just by being here. And that country boos the US National Anthem at a hockey game? Why do you think you speak English??? No one on this earth has any gratitude for what the US does day in and day out. We try to keep things in order. Iraq invaded a tiny country like Kuwait. Now what would you say if we never would have interfered? Then we would have been the bad guys because we aren't policing the world. But if we do, we are promoting war and killing innocent people, etc. I think this is what the US should do. Pull all foreign aid. Pull out of the UN and say we are fending for ourselves. You guys go and police the world. If that would happen, Saddam would rule all of the Middle east, Asia and some of Europe (only England and Spain have the balls to stand up for themselves) because no one would stop him. Then and only then might the US get the appreciation it deserves. Sorry for the rant, but we should be supporting the men and women over there right now fighting to make this world more safe for us by ridding it of dictators like Saddam Hussain right now. America got a wake up call with September 11th. I wonder how different it might have been if it would have happened someplace else. Then, those in different countries might understand a bit better. You only learn when it happens to you

I must say that all of you peaceniks who think that the US President has dont the wrong thing in what America is doing maybe you could come up with a better way. 12 years this man (Butcher of Baghdad) has just thumb his nose at the whole world. After we through him out of Kuwait in 1991 he signed a surrender treaty to disarm in 15 days. Over 4000 days have passed and he still has not done so. We (Americans) as always have to show the world what you must do when there is a threat to all world peace.
There may not be a direct connection between Iraq and Al Qaeda on the 09/11/2001 attack but they are connected. If it were not for the USA all of your Europeans pansies would be speaking German. So when peace must be preserved you must prepare for war. The next attack could be Paris or Berlin or Madrid.

Such a news item was bound to ellicit a massive response. I agree with the owners of this site whole heartedly. Our own governments are plainly guilty of trying to deceive us in order to garner support for this war. The double standards shown by our countries in this aspect is intolerable, and the ease with which so many of you buy into such obvious deception, just because it is from your own government is nothing short of tragic.

I am a patriot, I love my country. This is why I will continue to stand against this travesty of justice, even though people who are either too stupid to see the truth or too cowardly to stand for what they believe in tell us that "the war has started, we should all pull together now". I hope that this passes quickly, and as painlessly as possible. I also hope that the US doesn't once again leave those Iraqis who tried to help them alone in the desert, with the full knowledge that they would be killed by Hussein (this is the instance of Hussein gassing his own people that American hawks keep harping about, the US knew what was happening, and left them there to die, and is therefore just as guilty as Hussein in this aspect). I know that this will go down in the history books as a great mistake and tragedy.