huh ...i love my mertsch ....

all right said....
but the circle:
good games - more p2p - bad games - much more p2p - more bad games
price ok (40€)- no cost - price bad(50€)- no cost - bad price (50€+)

so, if they begin to make better games for a good price, p2p would maybe almost die, because everybody wants good games for a good price, or?

that´s my opinion

P2P will for sure never die ... but ...
lets take an example
LotR - I got to watch the first film in cinema cause of all the hype about it ... and I disliked it ... BUT when part 2 came out I still walked to the cinema because it was just awesome ... now I haven't seen part 3 up to now but I would never think of downloading this (even if there would be a full DVD backup) since I want to watch this in cinema ...
same for Terminator 3 ... or Minority Report and so on
but I am so lucky that I have watched pirates of the c. on DVD @ friends TV ... such a hype about that film and huh ? what a BS - gay actor - not any real action - no horror - not even erotic - just a typical RTL2 movie
and thats why I have to got to cinema ?
there are many many more
same with games ... lets take Enter the Matrix Pay for that ??? even play it for free ??? what a BS game ... first I thought whooooo 5.1 sound thats really cool but after playing 5 minutes the game got deleted and never put back a feet on PC
while games like Starcraft are even nowadays simply make fun and it has been supported for many years .... its still now but effort are at minimum for sure
I can inset my original CD ... instal it and have lotsa fun ... name me some a bit older gamer where you can do the same ... else then CS or project nomads
and HL is also in the middle .... great game but since winXP and all those patches the game does not work correctly anymore ... missing body / pieces ... missing blood ... remember those monster producing that attack sound ? they do not work correctly and many more ... anyone try to fix that ??? blizzard would ...

up to now I own all those games since I know ... blizz games rock and they will work even in 1 year or 2 ... I can count on that and thats waht missing !!!
oh and another argument .... what do ppl. exspect ?
whats is the difference betwenn a copy (illegal or not) and the package you can buy ?
a DVD case ? you can by for some cent at any store
an inly you can print a home
a PDF manual on CD
1000 registration formulas

so tell me why I have to buy that .... where is the whooo thats cool feeling" where is encouragement to buy something of the product to have it complete .... to have a full colored MAP to have a guide with tips or to have just a damn cool package with BonusCD when everythign else the advertising is on that CD (yeah its on the CD, too) in a fuckin ordinary DVD case ???????????????

ok....very good arguements !!!

but, i buy a great game like COD, Gothtic2, Mohaa, Spellforce because i want to play it via internet and the priated key won´t work in multiplayer and the next thing, almost ever u can´t install a patch without the original .exe and if u don´t own them, u can´t almost never patch, or the other thing in Gothic2 u can´t install the addon without the original .exe
that´s why i buy a game....

ok ... i´m downloading a demo of the game, maybe sometimes the "Big Demo", but when the game is great, then i run to the next store to buy it and then i can play without anythings like, "no valid cd key"

In the end mertsh agreed with me - we want fun. Screw them if they can't make the game fun. We need games like the classics, UFO, some good old fun like Doom, Dune 2, and Wolfenstein, more of games like Cannon Fodder, Blood (the first one was the one I liked most ), and recently the only games I really enjoyed going into were Deus Ex, the UT series (they were all fun to me), Generals (Never played a strategy game quite so much, bar XCOM/UFO), and perhaps I could include Raven Shield.

Other titles worth mentioning would probably be the original C&C and RA1 (damn that was fun ), Z - DAMN that game rocked, Duke Nukem 3D (again, all the fun ), and Warcraft 1 and 2. The third one just didn't quite cut it for me, but thats probably because I'm useless at it now

Either there go my classics list - for all the fun and sleepless nights they brought me

Add more games to the list that you think I may have forgotten, or tell me which you don't agree with

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I also enjoyed Renegade

nah .... renegade was one of those 10€ games ... grafics ... hmm ke .... weapons ... bad joke ... balancing ... even more ... enemy KI ??? I did not found any ..

yeah.....renegade wasn´t good.....
but.....old games....u remember -Street Rod- ? (C64 or Amiga)....that was a great game....for those who don´t know that game....it´s the first game with street races and built up your car faster...like NFSU

K , whats C 64 and amiga , my first encounter with PC was 486 when i was in school.

ah .. its must be cause i am in India , far away from USA and Germany , where the PC revolution really mloomed .

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elaborate in words please :/

Kyro buy a really old PC and play Cannon fodder

u will be surprised , i hav a p1 or 486 (forgot) + 16 MB ram + 650 GB HDD lying in a corner her ein working condition .

i am gonna keep it in working condition and then after some 25 years sell it to a museum and become a millionaire