• About Us
  • Search
  • Compatibility
  • Forums
  • Archive
  • Channels
  • Home
  • Search
  • Member List
  • Calendar
  • Help

Current time: 07-09-2008, 12:53 PM Hello There, Guest! (Login — Register)


Warp2Search - Your Daily Tech News Service / Graphics Cards & Drivers / General Graphics Card Talk / Ti4200 64mb better than 128mb?

Post Reply  Post Thread 
Threaded Mode | Linear Mode
Ti4200 64mb better than 128mb?
Author Message
ShockaR
Senior Member
****


Posts: 325
Group: Registered
Joined: Mar 2003
Status: Offline
Reputation: 0
Post: #1
Ti4200 64mb better than 128mb?

Hey. Bought my Vid card (on my signature) about 2-3 months back now but back then when I was going to buy it a friend of mine who knows alot about comps showed me this benchmark, which showed that the 64MB DDR version of the Ti4200 had better Frame Rate score than the 128MB and the 128 8xAGP was only better by like a frame :o . Source: http://www17.tomshardware.com/graphic/20...ts-02.html .
He said that the memory on the GFX card doesnt work like the memory on the comp so more isnt necessarily better... :roll: . Since then I still aint convinced but im just wondering what you guys think.
Soz for the wrong read LOL .

Chaos Smile

05-02-2003 11:52 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Mmm_Beefy
Member
***


Posts: 51
Group: Registered
Joined: Dec 2002
Status: Offline
Reputation: 0
Post: #2
well

your friends right for the most part, but for the few dollars extra for 64 more megs of ram, that'd be worth it in the future (hell maybe even now).

i got the 64meg version of a 4200, i'm now considering getting the 128.. like i shoulda done to begin with.

05-02-2003 03:15 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Comment
Junior Member
**


Posts: 23
Group: Registered
Joined: Dec 2002
Status: Offline
Reputation: 0
Post: #3
 

This data from the same review:
GeForce4 Ti4200 64MB NVIDIA Reference v41.09 250/514 128Bit DDR
GeForce4 Ti4200 128MB NVIDIA Reference v41.09 250/444 128Bit DDR
GeForce4 Ti4200-8x 128MB NVIDIA Reference v41.09 250/514 128Bit DDR

As you can see, the memory clock for the 4200 128MB version is clocked significantly lower than the 64MB model (444MHz v 514MHz). The GPU core clock is the same for all three models (250MHz). Also note that the AGPx8 model is basically a mesh of the two AGPx4 models; 128MB RAM at 514Mhz with the addition of AGPx8. If you look at the scores you will see that the AGPx4 64MB model and the AGPx8 128MB models score approximately the same. This should tell you that the AGPx4 128MB model is memory bandwidth limited and that there is no significant AGP bottleneck. AGPx8 is a marketing number only for this model.

05-02-2003 04:54 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
NIKEMARINE
Senior Member
****


Posts: 568
Group: Registered
Joined: Nov 2002
Status: Offline
Reputation: 0
Post: #4
 

$169(can) MSI (MS-8907) FX5200 TDR 128MB DDR AGP8x w/TV & DVI

haha, I just seen this today
Nice and cheap


AthlonXP 2800+ Barton
MSI K7N2-L Nforce2
BFG 6600GT OC
1.5GB DDR333 Dual Channel
16x Pioneer DVD. 48x Lite-On RW.
2x Seagate Baracuda 80GB
Audigy 2ZS w/ 5.1 speakers
05-02-2003 06:32 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
ShockaR
Senior Member
****


Posts: 325
Group: Registered
Joined: Mar 2003
Status: Offline
Reputation: 0
Post: #5
 

Hmmm. I just can't get around my head on why something with lower Memory than the other can be better :roll: . I just find it un-commonsense.

05-02-2003 08:09 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Mertsch
Super Moderator
******


Posts: 2,999
Group: Super Moderators
Joined: Aug 2002
Status: Offline
Reputation: 1
Post: #6
 

NIKEMARINE Wrote:
$169(can) MSI (MS-8907) FX5200 TDR 128MB DDR AGP8x w/TV & DVI

haha, I just seen this today
Nice and cheap



There are better ways to waste money !!! No for real this card really SUCKS



Avatar and signature by Eckpert @ Kackebeus.de
05-02-2003 10:33 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
NIKEMARINE
Senior Member
****


Posts: 568
Group: Registered
Joined: Nov 2002
Status: Offline
Reputation: 0
Post: #7
 

Dont ask me, ask the manufacturer of the card anc complain why the damn ram is slower!!
I just over clock my ram to that speed,


AthlonXP 2800+ Barton
MSI K7N2-L Nforce2
BFG 6600GT OC
1.5GB DDR333 Dual Channel
16x Pioneer DVD. 48x Lite-On RW.
2x Seagate Baracuda 80GB
Audigy 2ZS w/ 5.1 speakers
05-02-2003 11:41 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
El_Coyote
Senior Member
****


Posts: 555
Group: Registered
Joined: Dec 2002
Status: Offline
Reputation: 0
Post: #8
 

slower = cheaper ram... 4200 IS the budget version if gf4 ti...


http://www.warp2search.net: News Editor
Never miss a good chance to shut up!
05-02-2003 11:58 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Chicken
Senior Member
****


Posts: 311
Group: Registered
Joined: Feb 2002
Status: Offline
Reputation: 0
Post: #9
 

Just overclock the 128mb's memory to the same (or very close) to the 64mb's and they will bench exactly the same scores (the 128 may possibly beat the 64).

You will definately see the 128 beating the 64 in later games, as textures get larger and larger, once the 64mb's is full it has to resort to using system ram, and speeds will drop off compared to a 128mb using it's onboard memory.

05-03-2003 04:07 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Peav
Member
***


Posts: 69
Group: Registered
Joined: Dec 2002
Status: Offline
Reputation: 0
Post: #10
 

I have the Albatron TI4200 P Turbo which comes with 128mb of BGA (3.3ns) mem clocked at 550MHZ.

When clocked at default 64mb ti4200 speeds it performs the same as the 64. It is due, as people have mentioned,to the reason that the mem on normal 128mb cards is clocked way lower than normal 64mb cards.

For the record the mem on this card runs stable at 700 MHZ Smile pity my comp is too slow to take advantage of it Wink

cyas
Peav

05-03-2003 04:49 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
[sT121KER]
Member
***


Posts: 182
Group: Registered
Joined: Jun 2003
Status: Offline
Reputation: 0
Post: #11
 

128MB graphic card is better than GeForce 4 Ti 64MB. Which graphic card are you going to buy in 128MB. Now I have GeForce 4 Ti 4800. If you want you can buy GeForce 4 Ti 4800 or if you wait until June 2003 you can get GeForce FX 5900 Ultra.


CPU: Pentium 4 3.2GHz 800FSB HT
Mobo: Intel
RAM: PC3200 1024MB
Video Card: ATi 9800 Pro 128MB DDR
HDD: Barracuda 80GB 7200RPM
Speakers: DELL 2.1 A425 Speakers
Keyboard: Microsoft Digital MEdia Pro kewboard
Mouse: DELL scroll mouse
06-21-2003 02:10 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Denniss
Member
***


Posts: 51
Group: Registered
Joined: Aug 2002
Status: Offline
Reputation: 0
Post: #12
 

The 128MB AGP4x version had clock down the mem because it used the same small PCB with less layers designed to run with 64MB - the extra 64MB uses more power than the PCB was designed for so they clocked it down in case of stability

The 128MB AGP8x versions use a different PCB with more layers to provide additional Power for more RAM so the RAM is at full speed there

06-21-2003 05:17 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
[sT121KER]
Member
***


Posts: 182
Group: Registered
Joined: Jun 2003
Status: Offline
Reputation: 0
Post: #13
 

128MB graphic cards are way better than 64MB graphich cards.


CPU: Pentium 4 3.2GHz 800FSB HT
Mobo: Intel
RAM: PC3200 1024MB
Video Card: ATi 9800 Pro 128MB DDR
HDD: Barracuda 80GB 7200RPM
Speakers: DELL 2.1 A425 Speakers
Keyboard: Microsoft Digital MEdia Pro kewboard
Mouse: DELL scroll mouse
10-01-2003 03:06 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Denniss
Member
***


Posts: 51
Group: Registered
Joined: Aug 2002
Status: Offline
Reputation: 0
Post: #14
 

Please re-read my post just before yours !!

10-01-2003 03:55 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
« Next Oldest | Next Newest »
Post Reply  Post Thread 

View a Printable Version
Send this Thread to a Friend
Subscribe to this Thread | Add Thread to Favorites

Forum Jump:

Contact Us | Warp2Search.Net | Return to Top | Return to Content | RSS Syndication

Powered By MyBB
Copyright © 2002-2008 MyBB Group