Another title i had in mind "Just another reason to hate Pentium :evil: " anyway.

From more than one resources i hav conformed that the .13 Throughbred will be installable on your current Palomino Compatible motherboards. The following is the chart mentioning some "Unofficial" stats.

Athlon XP Frequency Palomino Max. Palomino T-bred Max.
MHz Vcore Palomino power Vcore T-bred
, V core temp consumption , V core
oC , W temp,
oC
1700+ 1467 1.75 90 64 1.5 90
1800+ 1533 1.75 90 66 1.5 90
1900+ 1600 1.75 90 68 1.5 90
2000+ 1667 1.75 90 70 1.6 90
2100+ 1733 1.75 90 72 1.6 90
2200+ 1800 ? ? ? 1.65 85

T-bred
power consumption, W
49.4
51
52.5
60.3
62.1
67.9

As you can see the Vcore temp and power comsumption is less in the .13 Throughbred(T-bred) as compared to .18 Palomino ver.


Eat your hearts out Pentium Users 8)
KYRO

I gave up on intel years back when they decided they'd make a new chip socket for almost every processor release. I mean they have at least 2 different sockets for the P4 already, but my old AMD mainboard can still take the new AMD chips.

I think it all comes from back when intel were the most common mainboard chipset maker and wanted to force people to buy new boards every upgrade to try and keep more profits.

why do ppl say stuff like that. if u want an AMD, get an AMD. if u want an Intel, get an intel. u do not have to pic a side on everything. if i was to build a comp right now, i would stick the newest P4 in it. if i was to build one a few months from now it might be the upcoming AMD .13 micron CPU. i doubt u would be disapionted with the performance of either of them though. so just chill with all that.

I guess many of warp2search readers are not english speaking so i would like to elaborate some points that come to my mind whenever i read that AMD/ Intel debaters get a life and it is silly to talk about AMD/Intel price/performance.

Although many people would like to say a performance PC is a luxury for the rich and spoiled brats the truth is, its actually not. I guess even a rich DAD or MOM would think 10 times when handing $1,000-$2,000 to his child to buy a comp so that he can play MAXPAYNE, QUAKE 3 or any other game at 200 fps. (If u have actually convinced ur parent to give u PC on this argument either you are genius or they are idiots).

If it wasnt for AMD and ATI we all still would have been using p-3 at $2,000+ and geforce 3 cards at $450+.

So if you think its a silly argument that AMD is giving a faster chip at lesser price or ATI is giving more FPS than NVIDIA think again.

don't have a heart attack there man, lol. i think it is good to talk about Intel vs AMD, Nvidia vs ATI and such. i think it is bad when some guy with an AMD thinks of the guy with a high priced Intel as their moronic arch enemy. I want to add more, but im tired so..... later

its pretty obvious that Intel is making a fool of their buyers just because they know that the average person would always buy the product that is widely seen in commercial. its sad to say that intel is cashing out on those people that doesnt know that there is a choice and that there is one that will give them the bang for their buck. So i think those people that go for intel are pretty well stupid coz they are only paying for the name of the company and not the performance. Hell i praise AMD for what they are doing!!!God bless AMD.

u can get a 2GHz Northwood for about the same as a 2100+ AMD, so what are u talking about. any performance differences u see in the say........3dmark2001 test, would be hard to detect in real world use. i do not have an Intel hat or t-shirt on, i do not use AMD adds for toilet paper. i am not completely BIAS. If ppl are going to buy a computer without doing any research and without weighing options, don't feel bad for them.

Dude lol , u have missed the point big-way. The question here is not performance difference neck-to-neck(between AMD and Intel) but performance vis-a-vis price ratio including upgrading options sans/minus performance loss. Intel eats poop in this matter?

Case closed. :x


Quote- In case of immergency put your head between your knees and kiss your bum goodbye. :wink:

Ok, I had a small >1 hour debate with my friends over this. Almost all are amd user but all of them argued heavily on price thing i was yanking. everybody was claiming an AMD pc now comes almost at the same price if not more as compared to intel.

To me the major price difference should come in ram but it doesnt here(Bombay India); DDR and RD RAM are priced almost same and if that is not enough SD ram is priced Rs 250-500 (ok $6-10) less. To me that is Hidious.

To me AMD still is a bargain PC if configured properly and also if (as promised by some reports i have seen on net) the throughbred is compatible with palomino motherboard, then it will be an unbelievable BONUS.

Your stats are listed in a kind of confusing manor, it looks like all you got on the Tbred is the power consumption. Can you re-type it a little more clearly??

I have in fact heard before that most of the current XP mobo's will run the higher end chips, and the Gigabyte I'm running claims on their website it will handle the higher end cpu

OK sudden , New chart coming up in Couple of days.

(setting a new site and then will link a screenshot of the chart from there, may take more time but worth it !)

KYRO

Thanks kyro, hope i didn't sound bitchy !!
I wish the Intel heads would bother readin the tech info as we AMD fanatics do, then thet too would KNOW THE TRUTH !!

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