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n0_cArR1eR
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REALmagic Xcard

geekextreme.com just posted a review on the new Sigma Designs REALmagic Xcard. You can find it at:

http://www.geekextreme.com/modules.php?n...tent&id=45

06-23-2002 02:03 AM
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Nice review! This card really kicks @ss.

And for all the German folks out there:
Bestellung ist auch unter http://www.sigmadesigns.de für €150.- möglich.

There also is a button for English language so maybe ordering is possible in the whole EU.

06-23-2002 11:45 AM
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Sorry guys, but as far as I'm concerned this is a poor review. You cover some "neat" technical info but you failed to actually review the card.

Put it this way, were this a graphics card would you post the review WITHOUT performance info? No. Would you post the review WITHOUT comparing to other such products? No.

There's performance comparison (CPU/memory usage) with software decoders. No image quality comparisons either - heck not even a single screenshot of it playing anything.

Heck, as regards DVD playback you don't even consider the question - If I own a hollywood plus is this worth getting? Similarly, if you already have powerdvd/windvd is it worth getting?

For these reasons this review fails. Better luck next time.

06-23-2002 01:39 PM
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Anon Wrote:
There's performance comparison (CPU/memory usage) with software decoders.

Ooops, typo that should be - there's NO performance comparisons.

06-23-2002 01:40 PM
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Aww, the poor baby doesn't like that I pointed out errors in the review. Perhaps I should rewrite my comments - Wow, that review was great, besides the fact you didn't actually review the product at all & gave absolutely zero reason as to why one should buy it.

06-23-2002 02:37 PM
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You want some information? Here you go!

Allow me to bring up one question first. Have you ever tried to play a dvd without a hardware-decoder on a 200mhz pc? This is only possible (100% smooth) on a machine with 500mhz+ so any performance-comparison would be rubbish.

Secondly any software decoder has poor image quality (which includes most stand alone players) compared to hardware decoding! Screenshots would have shown that.

Last not least if you own a hollywood+/dxr3 you only need the xcard if you want for divx4/5 what your old card does for dvd. How fast can you say "clean and smooth playback without any artifacts and (almost) no cpu usage plus an ir control"?

06-23-2002 07:04 PM
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Magic, I HAVE the Xcard (& Hollywood Plus & PowerDVD XP), that's why I'm complaining about this terrible "review".
& for what its worth there are MANY who prefer the image quality of software decoders, i.e. WinDVD when playing back on a monitor to what hardware decoders offer. If you want TV output then the Xcard & Hollywood Plus were fantastic, more so because their TV output was better than that of most graphics cards.

You shouldn't bother pointing these out as its not "your" poor review Wink
As regards your "why" you need the xcard over hollywood plus I'd strongly disagree, though I'll be pointing out why its better when I've finished by review (which unlike this one does cover DVD playback performance V Win DVD & PowerDVD & DivX playback V windows media player/power dvd).

06-23-2002 07:21 PM
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Magic Wrote:
This is only possible (100% smooth) on a machine with 500mhz+ so any performance-comparison would be rubbish.


You fail to understand what I mean. By performance I mean how much resources is it using to do it. Saying a performance comparison is rubbish is well, stupid. Thats like saying that "I have a 1Ghz CPU I'll not bother comparing performance of my geforce 3 to geforce 4 as all my games run ok". That's no excuse.

Besides, your point there assumes you're doing nothing else in the background, which won't be the case for most. For what it's worth a 1.2Ghz PC Xcard uses effectively 0% CPU when playing a DVD, while WinDVD 4 uses up to 50%, not to mention almost 30MB more page file. You stil think comparisons are useless if you have 500Mhz plus? Yeah, right

06-23-2002 07:32 PM
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My "Poor" review

Ok, for the record, I wasn't the lameass who posted that "I own yer ass" crap, I'm well over the age of 12.

I'm sorry you've taken my "poor" review so personal, to the point you not only diss it here, but on Geek Extreme. If I had been doing reviews for the past couple of years then MAYBE there'd be a legitimate gripe about how it was written, but the fact is I've only reviewed software up to this point. I don't mind some ADVICE, but it really pissed me off when someone comes out and says "It sucks, it needed ......". Really starts to show your level of maturity. I also get a kick out of how you hide behind "Anonymous" everywhere you post, why not say who you are? We're not going to come find you and beat the crap out of you. Also, we'll be more than happy to host your review of it when you complete it.

06-23-2002 08:35 PM
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Re: My "Poor" review

n0_cArR1eR Wrote:
If I had been doing reviews for the past couple of years then MAYBE there'd be a legitimate gripe about how it was written, but the fact is I've only reviewed software up to this point.

Sorry, but inexperience doesn't make it any better. The faults listed are, as dicussed all perfectly valid & seem fairly obvious - if you review a MPEG decoder then you should consider performance discuss image quality as compared to other hardware decoders if possible, or seeing as its a pc card, to other software decoders.
Then compare performance, etc. features of both. seems obvious to me. As for "hiding" behind anon, what's your point, its just a "handle", is "n0_cArR1eR" somehow greatly more identifiable?

06-23-2002 09:22 PM
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@ Anon

OK smartass (excuse my bad English).

To compare the xcard with software-decoders still IS stupid. Try to use WinDVD on a 200mhz machine and you'll see my point.

You prefer a Software-decoder? Are you blind? Need glases?

Learn to read!
clean and smooth... no cpu usage...
Why would I say something like that if I wouldn't be well aware (and using my cpu-power otherwise while I'm watching a movie) of the benefit it gives me.

Your turn

06-23-2002 11:16 PM
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nameless whiners

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As for "hiding" behind anon, what's your point, its just a "handle", is "n0_cArR1eR" somehow greatly more identifiable?


Actually, yes. People who have visited Geek Extreme know the name, know I work for it, and know it's that same person who's here defending his review, and taking flack from someone who can't even give a name of some kind with opinions that from what I've seen in this forum, are not shared with others. Just because it didn't live up to your expectations doesn't mean others give a shit if it had that stuff in it. I don't hide behind "Anon" or "Anonymous". If I have something to say about something, I'll say it, and people will know WHO it came from.

As you can see, I used my REAL name this time.... No handles, just the name I was born with.

06-24-2002 02:08 AM
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Funny . . .

You seem to be the only guy here who doesn't like that review. I've been a fan of GeekExtreme for a while now. Those guys work hard over there. They've had their bad moments. Until recently the site kinda sucked but lately it's been good. Just because you don't agree with the review doesn't mean you have to slam it.

Keep up the good work guys.

06-24-2002 02:16 AM
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its all about how you say it. ex. baby can you get me a glass of kool aid? or Bitch, maove ur ass in side and get me a f*ckin glass of juice!

Anon makes some good points, but comes across very hard for what reason i don't know. some pointers or requests as to what info could be benificial would have been alot more productive.

i personlly feel that comparisons are THE most important part of a review. all the tech stuff is great (and often makes me drool) but in the end what i want to to see how a product stacks up to ALL available solutions. and if they blow away a different solution, the only way i might know is if you compare them.

lets all take a deep breath, and realize that alot of these posts (from both sides) sound a bit 12ish.


Quiting smokings easy...I've done it a hundred times. M.T.
06-24-2002 02:16 AM
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Thank you

Thank you.. See, constructive critisism.. Goes over a lot better than "What a poor review", and doesn't upset anyone. Now I know what to keep in mind the next time I review a piece of hardware.

06-24-2002 04:27 AM
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