Okay, i was originally planning on getting a Geforce FX, but that got shot to hell for obvious reasons.

Now i'm looking at ATI cards, either a Radeon 9700 Pro or 9800 Pro. Before i buy either, i was wondering what speeds people in here are getting with them, and any problems you've been having with drivers (last time i had ATI, it was a radeon 7200 - which i despised and switched to nVidia after, but i hear it's got a ton better)

So, post your 3dmark scores peeps FPS in the latest games would be nice too (splinter cell/ut2003, etc). Also system specs with it.

Ooh, maybe this would help a tad bit: i don't care much for AA, as i'd be running 1600x1200, but i like aniso maxed out.

Hey man if i were you, i would wait to buy either the NV35.
Or buy the 256mb edition of the 9800 pro.
All the problems of the nv30 will be fixed on the nv35. Even the
loud cooling. And it will run on 256bit bus with either ddr 2 or 1.

I don't have any benchmarks for you since i'm running a Leadtek
gf4 ti 4600.

Yeah well if he constantly waits he'll buy nothing tbh

I have a Geforce 5800 Ultra and my 3dmarko3 score is 5709

i didn't even know the 5800 Ultra was on the market yet lol!

It is!

XP1700+ @ 3100+ {2505Mhz} GPU 380 Memory 720 {Radeon 9700Pro} so get Radeon 9700Pro since its faster than Geforce FX 5800 Ultra and costs much less.

Spajdr, that's a NICE overclock! How the hell did you do that?

useing one of the "special" 1700+ steppings.