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How to prevent SPAM ? Your tips

I think, everybody of us got spam every day, one people more a day, others less.
But it is very annoying to open your inbox and read tons of letters about viagra, Mr. Mumbasa would like to send some money, how to enlarge your little friend and all the b***sh**.

What kind of defense you are using or do don t care about it and delete them ?

Leave your best tips and tricks, after the topic we will write a conclusion about it and post it as best tips and tricks for all users.

Hope you all share your thoughts and experiences.

Thanks

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Spammenot

Don't leave your e-mail address on forums.
Don't provide it to any site/person you don't trust unless absolutely necessary. If you visit dodgy (porn) sites and put your address in you deserve what you get!
Don't reply or try to unsubscribe to Spam - It will only get worse because they know you exist.
If you have to pass it on to someone, insert some other obvious text into it i.e. mr.bloggs@[NOJUNK]myisp.co.uk
Choose a good ISP, if you use hotmail what do you expect?

No junk mail in 3 years!

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see poll reply Wink



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Posted by Mertsch in poll comment:

during last days I get tons of VIAGRA eMails ... but since I use MailWasher ... it isn't that problem ...

http://www.firetrust.com

its free for one email account ...
its very easy to use ... got lots usefull options to delete emails automatically ... very good preview function ... which is 100% safe - means:
no pictures are loaded (tracking links)
no virus can be executed
no other malware HTML code ....

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Advanced Spam Defense 1.0 turns Aggressive

Version 1.0 of Advanced Spam Defense was just released under it's new name - Aggressive Spam Defense.

This new version sports quite a few enhancements. Most notably is the ability to learn from current spam and use it against future spam. Also the user-interface has been streamlined even further.

http://www.hace.us-inc.com/ :oops:

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the filter in Oputlook 2003 is actually quite good Smile


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Outlook 2003 is the ticket...

You can't really stop the mail from coming but there are a few things that can be done so you don't even have to see them...

Here are a couple that I do. First if you have Outlook 2003 set it to delete these items Automatically and you NEVER have to see them but you could delete some mail you may want - So set up rules that allow anyone from contact list to make it through - Even from those from places you may want their spam - Occassionally some do make it through anyway just add them to BLOCKED SENDERS LIST...

If you have an older version of Outlook another process I used for Outlook 2000 and Outlook from Office XP.

Set a rule that moves all items that have your first 4 letters of your email address to your deleted items folder then add to that rule that only people from your contact list will be allowed to enter your inbox and this will stop you from having to see anything from any spammers - Occassionally check your deleted items folder for email that you may want and add only those you want to your contact list and also set your Deleted Items folder to DELETE items on Outlook EXIT.... Once this is done for about a month you should have all contacts added to your contact list that you turly wanted and add any from forums like this one etc.

Once everything is set and all rules applied you will only have to see the emails you truly want - this will also elimate the possibility of ever getting a virus unless one of your contact individuals send it on to you.... LOL


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El_Coyote Wrote:
the filter in Outlook 2003 is actually quite good Smile


It's excellent. One thing that's extremely important is to turn OFF displaying HTML email in your email tool (the viewing pane). One of the more elaborate schemes they're using these days is create an small image nested within an HTML email. The image file has a unique identifier (handle) associated with it and if your email tool is displaying HTML, the second you download that image file they GOT you. In other words, you've just authenticated your email address as being active. It then goes into a database and they can sell it to anyone they want.

So, my big tip for the day is TURN OFF HTML in your email tool.

Filters --- you've got several options. With Outlook 2003 you can create a filter to have ONLY email from your "safe list" (ONLY people who are already in your address book) get through. You can also have all that "unsafe" email (defined as "Junk E-Mail") go into the Junk E-Mail folder (or whatever folder you specify). You can also have it permanently deleted.

Another of the more interesting "features" of Outlook 2003 is that you can block an entire domain, which can be very handy UNLESS you know someone who is using that domain. For example, about 85% of all spam comes from Yahoo but a LOT of people use Yahoo for email (because they do such a great job of filtering spam, believe it or not). So, if you block Yahoo and have all that email deleted, the next time your buddy (or someone who is just trying to get in touch with you) tries to email you, you'll never get it. If you simply have all the spam go into the Junk E-Mail folder though, you'll at least be able to review what's in there and create more specific "rules" (filters) to deal with the spam.

One of the big problems with filters though is that for them to be effective, they have to be somewhat generic by nature. For example, if you filter on the word "viagra", you should also include such spellings as "v i a g r a" and "vi@gr@" and every other permutation you can come up with because the spammers have gotten so created (with spelling of words). And too, the next time your buddy or girlfriend writes to you and just happens to mention viagra in his/her email, it'll get squashed by the filter (if you're checking both the subject and the body of the email).

I've tried every combination of filter imaginable, tried every spam tool add-on out there and NONE of them are 100% effective at dealing with spam. One of the more notorious methods of dealing with spam is the email front-end that sends an email back to the spammer. This email is basically a form, of sorts, that has to be filled out (a request to send email to you, actually) but again, as soon as the tool responds to the spam, the sender has just verified your email address as being active.

I had a pair of email addresses for nearly 10 years that this past year I had to cancel because I was getting an average of 130+ spam emails a day (from each account). I've more or less come to the conclusion that email addresses are only temporary and that once they (the spammers) get you on their list, you might as well cancel your old email address, create a new one and send everyone in your address book an email with your new address. Since doing that myself, the amount of spam I receive (daily) averages about 3. That's down from over 250+ a day.

Another useful method of dealing with spam is to have 2 email addresses --- one from your normal ISP that you use for communicating with friends (and ONLY friend) and another one for EVERYTHING else (forum registration, web site registration, whatever). The one you use for everything else might be from Yahoo, MSN, whoever, but it should be from an on-line service that is fairly effective at dealing with spam and that allows you to change your email addresses whenever you like. Then, when the spammers get their hands on it, it'll only be temporary and you'll only get spam for as long as you can stand it.

The same thing applies to your normal email address. When it gets to the point where you're getting 100+ spam emails a day, I'd say that email address has outlived it's usefulness and it's time to get a new one. There is NO stopping them (the spammers) so just accept the fact that you'll either HAVE to get used to all the spam or get used to changing your email address occasionally (once a year, once every 2 years, whenever).

Well, I guess that's a little more than just one tip for dealing with spam. Sorry 'bout that. Good luck and do whatever it takes.

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n'evening

just tried that ASD tool ....
1. installion is good
2. going into programm setup ... now it starts to get tricky ...
whooooooooooooooooo stop it .... thausands of options floating @ u ..... lots bars without any descriptions
... its not bad ... there is an idea behind it ... but its useless to make that much trouble of fighting spam ... I will stay with MailWasher mentioned above ... its way more easy and does the job really good

ah btw not to forget ....
3. uninstallation sucks its unclean



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Most of us these days have unlimited email address's on a sub-domain provided by our ISP. The best option is to create a brand new email for each thing you sign up to online, for example here I have an email w2s@mydomain.com, this way I can tell where the spammer got my email address from and v-easily filter out all mail to that email address to my trash if I start getting lots of spam to it.

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First of all, I must admit... OL2003 is brilliant!

2nd: My own domain, catch-all and "block-all"-function... (not receiving email for certain names)

3rd: Spamihilator - a wonderfull programm, lots of additional filters to it... works with an estimated accuracy of 99,8% in my eyes.


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Hi m8s

Outlook is not a bad program, 2003 is maybe the best of the releases of it, but there is a thing that sucks big time in Outlook and Outlook Express:

If you receive some nested e-mail (must forwarded emails have this behavior) you can not see them in-line, you have to double click on every other e-mail that is included in the main one. This is really lame from Outlook because in must e-mail clients you have the option to have forwarded mail to be displayed in-line. This is what I like from Mozilla Thunderbird. I was a user of OE for long time and I have moved to Thunderbird. The only think that I miss from OE was the ability to hide the folder bar, nothing else.
I have been a registered user of Mailwasher long time ago, and the program is very good, but I have stopped to use it because with it you have to open first a program and after you clean you go to your e-mail client, this has pissed me off for the time consuming. A must better solution is a program that acts directly inside of your e-mail client. I have heard very good comments of POPfile, but have not tried it yet. There are a lot of other apps that promise heaven, but I prefer the ones that are already reviewed for respected people in the net and must of these ones are not.

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SpamBayes for outlook
Very accurate, and it learns (unlike keyword or address blocking) to get new spam
No false positives
You can still use HTML mail and everything.

It gets damn near all my spam, maybe the worst thing that happens is it only suspects a junk message instead of being certain.


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I beat spam at their source

www.spamcop.net

Register to use a free account! You can, then, forward the source-code of spam messages to an address they'll give you.

Every spam forwarded to that address will be automatically processed to locate the spammer origin (ISP) and his site host.

The responsible administrators will receive complaints about spam and the spammer accounts will (in most cases) be closed.

Most of the administrator accepts reports from SpamCop without your e-mail address, so you're protected. When an administrator does not accept reports without your e-mail, the boxes on the report page appear not checked (you can check it if you want to take the risk of confirming your e-mail address to a possibly administrator-spammer).

This is the right way to fight against spam: beating it at their source.[/b]

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yeah ..... Mailwasher support spamcop ....and also got its own reporting engine ...



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