HL2 is an entirely different beast

Hell, I can only run Halo at 11x8 (for the little bit that i played it...it really mucked around with my system) and even then it's a bit too slow for my tastes.

what do u mean that hl2 is an entirely different beast? also, does anyone know whether doom 3 will work well (eye candy @ 10*7)?

No doom 3 is nvidia turf

i thought that john carmack sed that nvidia has 2 run in that combination mode. is that true, or bull?

also will hl2 work with nice settings?

hl2 should do fine but dont forget both these games are due out in months and months, long enough for even my 9700 to be considered budget

but isnt the game optimised for the current range of cards as theyll know that most ppl cant afford the upgrade?

It isnt optimised for now as they know one thing, its that the game won't be out for a while.

And the optimisations usually go to the top end cards first as they use eye candy more and have power and features etc etc

Middle range cards are for those who can't afford the upgrade, true, but DON'T think that means you will get lots of power.

does anyone know what kind of settings my sys will run the games at and roughly what frames i can hope for?

Also will a 2.8ghz laptop with a 128mb radeon 9000 laptop perform better than mine? that is what a friend of mine sed.

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p42ghz
512 DDR 2100 RAM
msi 845 AR mobo
IBM deskstar 120GXP 80gb
COnnect 3d 9600 pro

Radeon 9000's are a TOTAL JOKE for 3d power

a friend of mine said the 9600 pro will beat the geforce 4 ti4600 with anti aliasing. i reckon thats trife, but i may be wrong. pls correct me, but i thought the rv350 uses supersampling so gets a mega performance loss at the higher anti aliasing as it needs massive bandwidth.

thanks for any help

i have 3 very like systems. what makes them diff is the gfx cards. in my oldest system (p4 2.8 533fsb 512PC2700) ive a Ti4600. in my other system, same specs but a FX5900 Ultra. In my third and newest system, ive a P4 3GHtz 1024PC3200 9800Pro XT. my ti4600 seems to play bf1942 smother than my 5900Ultra system. my 9800PXT system runs it best, smooth with 6XAA and 16XAF. Swaping out my 5900Ultra and my 9800proXT in my newest sytem for benching purposes...the ATI part scores better in 3dmark 01 (ati-18,000+ compared to nvidia-17,500+), and in 3dmark 03 (real close, both 6,000+ but the ati was higher overall than the 5900. In Aquamark bench...the Nvidia part scores best (50,000+ compared to 45,000+) so as i sit, i run the 9800pxt in my 3GHtz system just cause of pic quality. i havent really messed with the Unreal benches so ive no input there. also i havent tried halo. Call of Duty seems to run awesome on all 3 systems. as far as bottlenecks go...ive notice steady increases in bench scores when either a)new gfx card b)new faster ram c)new mobo with 800FSB and 8xagp. d)new processor P4 2.8(533) TO p4 3.0 (800) my 2 cents.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7164263

those differences are small

what i dont get is why there is all this hype around dx9; they still cant get a game that actually looks real! just played max payne 3. gfx were pretty good, but theres something that makes it not look quite real for some reason.

i am having a problem with AA/AF in the original unreal tournament; there are still big jaggies with 6x AA and 16x AF!! i am playing at 1024*768. also there is a problem with the lighting as there is a weird white square around the lights on maps; more noticible on larger maps. y is this and is this a hardware/ software prob?

It's a chipset problem. Update the Intel chipset with their latest drivers.

But aren't these nothing more than benchmarks?
Don't games run differently than a benchmark with pre-set animations?
All those questions

hiya... just thought i would give u my probs i had with upgrading/changing graphics cards....

I changed from a Geforce 4 Ti4200 to an ATI radeon 9700pro and the performance was not as i had hoped for... now i had done everything the way i had read on other forums etc... remove nvidia detonators with detonator destroyers etc... etc...

I tryed everything but it just wasnt kickin out the framerates and benchmarks it was supposed to...

So please take the advise of people who tell u to re-install a fresh copy of windows cos it realy works... it may seem like a pain in the ass but it is the only thing that seems to work properly...

my 3DMark 2001 scores were, b4 formatting...

Ti4200 = 11200 ish
Ati 9700 pro = 12600 ish

after formatting...

Ati 9700 pro = 15900 ish

(All done on default settings)

As u will c there was a big difference, all for the sake of a re-format.

try it b4 u think that ur card is at fault
hope this helps