Sniper Video Games Similar To DC Shooter's Acts
Posted by: Newsfactory on: 10/18/2002 02:19 AM [ Print | 15 comment(s) ] · 3014 views
WASHINGTON, Oct 17 (Reuters) - The aim is one shot, one kill, and the arsenal that of a professional killer. But the violence is on computer screens, not in Washington's suburbs.
Violent sniper video games bear an uncanny resemblance to the sniper's spree that has claimed nine lives and injured two people since Oct. 2 in and around the U.S. capital. In these games, simulations put the player behind the scope of some of the deadliest and most sophisticated weapons. Internet chat among those who play these games can be chilling. Rancho*: OMG are there any reasonable journalists out there??? In my humble opinion no video game can influence a well educated and firm personality to grab a gun and start killing people. Ban guns and firearms in the US - not games, for god's sake! Or start banning action movies and TV series alltogether with games when you are at it. Oh and don't forget to ban records with explicit lyrics.
Sniper Video Games Similar To DC Shooter's Acts
Violent sniper video games bear an uncanny resemblance to the sniper's spree that has claimed nine lives and injured two people since Oct. 2 in and around the U.S. capital. In these games, simulations put the player behind the scope of some of the deadliest and most sophisticated weapons. Internet chat among those who play these games can be chilling. Rancho*: OMG are there any reasonable journalists out there??? In my humble opinion no video game can influence a well educated and firm personality to grab a gun and start killing people. Ban guns and firearms in the US - not games, for god's sake! Or start banning action movies and TV series alltogether with games when you are at it. Oh and don't forget to ban records with explicit lyrics.
Sniper Video Games Similar To DC Shooter's Acts
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Sparkesy Senior Member Posts: 195 Joined: 2002-12-16 |
#38731 Posted on: 10/18/2002 03:31 AM
Christ haven't these people got anything better to write about??? ffs. it's like saying people shouldn't show motorracing on TV incase because people drive over the speed limit. |
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_Legion_ Junior Member Posts: 2 Joined: 2001-11-25 |
#38732 Posted on: 10/18/2002 03:34 AM
I don't know if I agree with the first part about the games being similar to reality, but I do have to say, I've come across some demented individuals while playing shooters online. Sh*t, even I feel homicidal while reaming new arseholes in SOF2. There is something in the way they designed the death animations for that game, I gotta say...I love it, it excites me even. But this doesn't mean I'm going to obtain myself a SIG-551 and pop some skulls down at the local gas station does it? |
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cq107 Unregistered |
#38733 Posted on: 10/18/2002 03:53 AM
well this is my feedback... I hate these ***** media a$$s I am appalled that you attempt to link the sophisticated, non methodical sniper shootings to a video game that lives inside a box, completely disconnected from the real world in every aspect but that of “sight.” It is people like YOU who are grasping at straws to try and connect in any way possible a video game to a senseless act of murder. It is YOU who probably loves writing in your cubical, your OWN corner of the world, where life is how you see it. It is only you who can voice an opinion of which you have no experience. Well listen to me. I avidly play video games, and most of those are violent video games. Hitman 2 should be a great game (I have the demo), and you know why? I can separate the real living, breathing world from one that is cold and dark – inside that of the box. It is your cubical, your box, that utterly provides you the surroundings to proliferate lies. The physical relationship from the complicated intricacy of using a sniper rifle has nothing to do with the mundane routine that popular culture now knows as “point and click.” You say that because a boy in Germany who owned 50+ violent video games, one of which being Counter Strike, gives you the right to blame the whole video game industry for a murder? If this is your idea of a “straw” why don’t you go and bash the THOUSDANDS news reporters who THRIVE on the murders, rape, and “death”? Come out of your box and face the real world, a world very different from your own. |
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cq107 Unregistered |
#38734 Posted on: 10/18/2002 03:54 AM
doh... anyways heres my 2cents (towards the author that article) I am appalled that you attempt to link the sophisticated, non methodical sniper shootings to a video game that lives inside a box, completely disconnected from the real world in every aspect but that of “sight.” It is people like YOU who are grasping at straws to try and connect in any way possible a video game to a senseless act of murder. It is YOU who probably loves writing in your cubical, your OWN corner of the world, where life is how you see it. It is only you who can voice an opinion of which you have no experience. Well listen to me. I avidly play video games, and most of those are violent video games. Hitman 2 should be a great game (I have the demo), and you know why? I can separate the real living, breathing world from one that is cold and dark – inside that of the box. It is your cubical, your box, that utterly provides you the surroundings to proliferate lies. The physical relationship from the complicated intricacy of using a sniper rifle has nothing to do with the mundane routine that popular culture now knows as “point and click.” You say that because a boy in Germany who owned 50+ violent video games, one of which being Counter Strike, gives you the right to blame the whole video game industry for a murder? If this is your idea of a “straw” why don’t you go and bash the THOUSDANDS news reporters who THRIVE on the murders, rape, and “death”? Come out of your box and face the real world, a world very different from your own. |
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Sage Unregistered |
#38735 Posted on: 10/18/2002 05:22 AM
LOL!!!! They think that its related to Video Games!!? and they fail to overlook that any fukn nutball can get a gun in America! The land of the free.. and the scared. Curb the gun laws and then you might see some resolve. Blaming Video Games is utter crap. |
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Sage Unregistered |
#38736 Posted on: 10/18/2002 05:23 AM
LOL!!!! They think that its related to Video Games!!? and they fail to overlook that any fukn nutball can get a gun in America! The land of the free.. and the scared. Curb the gun laws and then you might see some resolve. Blaming Video Games is utter crap. |
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wb22gprix Unregistered |
#38737 Posted on: 10/18/2002 06:57 AM
Actually numerous studies in countries such as the UK and Australia have proven that tough gun laws have actually caused a drastic rise in crimes, particularly violent crimes. |
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Sage Unregistered |
#38738 Posted on: 10/18/2002 08:14 AM
hahaha.. i live in AUS mate.. and since gun laws have been restricted gun related crime has dropped dramatically.. |
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dangel Unregistered |
#38739 Posted on: 10/18/2002 09:59 AM
Dude, where do you get that crap? Look at how many people die in the US due to gun injuries - hardly any in the UK m8. So long as the US people are too narrow minded to get rid of their guns then people will continue to die. The UK will NEVER allow guns to the degree of the US simply because we don't want our kids blowing each others heads off. |
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RiCO Senior Member Posts: 289 Joined: 2002-05-28 |
#38740 Posted on: 10/18/2002 11:04 AM
I find this very amusing, they are blaming videogames, not the U.S. goverment which more or less put guns in american citizens hands. How the hell can they allow anyone to have guns, it is beyond me how they think over there, just look at them, kids steal their parents guns and shoot some students at school because they were mad at a teacher. Why didn't the parents lock up their guns in a safe? No, they prefer to leave it in the sock drawer, f#cking retards. Anyways, enough said. Americas weaponlaws are f#ucked up. |
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stressed Unregistered |
#38741 Posted on: 10/18/2002 11:15 AM
cq107 seems pretty hostile about the whole thing. Sounds damned defensive to me. Did you kill them you ****!?! |
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JemyM Senior Member Posts: 130 Joined: 2003-02-13 |
#38742 Posted on: 10/18/2002 11:16 AM
Passing the blame harms millions of innocents. No "sane" person do such horrible acts, and blaming innocents, saying that gamers are insane and deranged, is both irresponsible and cruel. Every sane being knows that he is not god. There is a distinct difference between calling yourself "god" and believe that you are "god". Declaring yourself a god and actually believe it is madness. It is caused by several psychological reasons, such as extreme pressure, depression, drugs or mental diseases. "GOD" = Powerful Entity, ruler of all, the one Let me explain why a teenage boy tells his friends "I Am God" after winning a game of Counter Strike. Men are born with a primal urge to be the most powerful male in the pack. To defeat the other men, gives them the female, and ruleship over the others. Men are always competive, in school, in sports, among friends, and personally I think non harmful ways to express this urge, is better than fistfight and murder. When you won over your mate, most men express their "title" of being the most powerful of his friends (= The ruler of the pack). He do this by using expressions like "Im God" or "Whos your daddy?". Doing this might sound tough, but it is the reality of men, it have always been like that, and it will always remain to be so. The older a man becomes, the less is his urge to be "the one", as he have gained more understanding and experience about life. In the case of the WDC sniper we have another really important clue that tells us that we are dealing with a insane madman, the tarot card. The tarot card is a symbol for faith itself. By using a tarot card this person declares himself not only as god, but also as "faith" himself. This important fact have been ruled out by the first writer, since it can not be used to empower his opinion. Tarot cards have nothing to do with war-games like counter strike. If you want to blame something, the clues fits better into religion and new age than computer games. Im sick of being declared insane becouse I think its funnier to kill pixels than people. Cyberbullets does not harm people. I rather win my pride in Counter Strike than in a fist-fight. Best Regards JemyM |
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JemyM Senior Member Posts: 130 Joined: 2003-02-13 |
#38743 Posted on: 10/18/2002 11:17 AM
Passing the blame harms millions of innocents. No "sane" person do such horrible acts, and blaming us innocents, saying that we gamers are insane and deranged, is both irresponsible and cruel. Every sane being knows that he is not god. There is a distinct difference between calling yourself "god" and believe that you are "god". Declaring yourself a god and actually believe it is madness. It is caused by several psychological reasons, such as extreme pressure, depression, drugs or mental diseases. "GOD" = Powerful Entity, ruler of all, the one Let me explain why a teenage boy tells his friends "I Am God" after winning a game of Counter Strike. Men are born with a primal urge to be the most powerful male in the pack. To defeat the other men, gives them the female, and ruleship over the others. Men are always competive, in school, in sports, among friends, and personally I think non harmful ways to express this urge, is better than fistfight and murder. When you won over your mate, most men express their "title" of being the most powerful of his friends (= The ruler of the pack). He do this by using expressions like "Im God" or "Whos your daddy?". Doing this might sound tough, but it is the reality of men, it have always been like that, and it will always remain to be so. The older a man becomes, the less is his urge to be "the one", as he have gained more understanding and experience about life. In the case of the WDC sniper we have another really important clue that tells us that we are dealing with a insane madman, the tarot card. The tarot card is a symbol for faith itself. By using a tarot card this person declares himself not only as god, but also as "faith" himself. This important fact have been ruled out by the first writer, since it can not be used to empower his opinion. Tarot cards have nothing to do with war-games like counter strike. If you want to blame something, the clues fits better into religion and new age than computer games. Im sick of being declared insane becouse I think its funnier to kill pixels than people. Cyberbullets does not harm people. I rather win my pride in Counter Strike than in a fist-fight. Best Regards JemyM |
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Garrett Unregistered |
#38746 Posted on: 10/18/2002 02:40 PM
I gave alertnet some feedback, and I recommend anyone who knows better do the same. "Hello, I just wanted to let you know that I really found your article on 'sniper video games' to be misinformed and counter-productive. 'Violent sniper video games' are just that...video games. Anyone who is of sound mind realizes that they are just entertainment. Having such a bent and twisted mind that it allows you to do such things to real living people as entertainment...that's a whole different story. THAT is the story that you should be covering... If you are sick, you are going to gravitate to items and pursuits that interest you...such as over the top movies, guns, and perhaps certain video games. However, video games cannot cause such a change in an otherwise normal and healthly individual so that they are 'driven' to commit horrible acts such as these. If this were the case, thousands of people in hundreds of cities across the globe would be going on crazy bloody rampages every month. That is just a simple and inescapable fact. In addition, ANYONE who believes that you can 'learn to shoot' in a video game has to go buy a bunch of 'violent sniper games', play them for a few weeks, and then go get some real guns...they will realize that NOTHING save personal instrution can prepare you for effectively shooting a real weapon, certianly not a simple video game. Counter-Strike doesn't even simulate bullet speed or bullet drop. Its more like laser tag with fancy graphics...not exactly learning material. Don't get me wrong, personally I believe that handguns and sniper rifles serve only one purpose : murder. Only police should be able to carry guns. I don't agree with hunting either, but I consider it a necessary evil. HOWEVER, I love video games. I like Counter-Strike. I enjoyed Hitman. I really love America's Army : Operations (super-realistic; you want a 'violent sniper game' to complain about, try that one!). And I COMPLETELY DO NOT AGREE with violence, murder or war. It's just who I am. At the other end of the sanity continuum are those who gets their kicks from killing defenseless animals until they move on to bigger and more challenging prey. So, I just wanted to let you know that anyone who has any first hand knowledge about the subjects your writer attempted to elucidate the world about would recognize that he or she didn't know a thing about what they were attempting to discuss, that they were merely trying to ride the sniper gravy train and did a disservice to whomever read their article. And, you misspelled the word 'organization' in this feedback form. Thanks, Garrett" -G |
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dangel Unregistered |
#40509 Posted on: 01/16/2003 03:39 PM
Ban vehicles, electricity? No. They aren't designed as weapons. Guns are. Guns are for killing. That is their sole purpose. Have i lost you? The American constitution was written for the time it was written, not for all time. Clearly, American is *pretty darn unlikely* to be invaded in a post-nuclear age. By allowing people to 'bear arms' (and arm bears no doubt) your simply allowing people the right to decide when and where someone else dies. It's that simple- and that Nasty. A person, on their own, should not have the right to decide who lives and who dies - hence a judicary system for capital punishment (in a fair and modern society). Your quoted website is tosh too - the facts, for Britain anyway, is that gun crime is far less than that of any US gun-toting state. Also worth of note is that our policing (amongst other things) is being run into the ground by our current (idiotic) government by under funding and red tape. The rise in crime rates (gun or not) in this country has in no way been attributed to the fact we don't give every Tom, Dick and Harry a Uzi so they can sort out disputes themselves. It's what we like to call a *bad idea* dude. For all the lives *you claim* firearms save, they take thousands more. If that's acceptable to you, then i guess you're blind, a fool or both. |
