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Website Spong posted that we may have to face an unpleasant change in the way we know gaming. Right now we are all PC gamers. If it comes to what they outline there will soon be Nvidia and ATI gamers. Spong claims to have learned from insiders that Valve Software is currently investigating to make Half-Life 2 exclusive to Nvidia hardware. Half-Life was originally published in 1998 and brought innovations to the genre still referred to today. Spong also reports that both chipmakers have been in negotiations with game developers for such exclusivity deals for quite some time. More details are said to be revealed at this years E3. BTW this story was posted on April 2nd, 2003. Source: Spong.com

El_Coyote Senior Member Posts: 555 Joined: 2002-12-18

#42762 Posted on: 04/03/2003 08:46 PM "most ATI 9700 and 9800 owners will buy the nv35 for sure this summer" lol dont count on it... the R400 isnt on ice either. and shouldnt we stop hyping the nv35 in light of the utter disappointmen that was nv30? ati has a small marked share? last diagram i saw was before the r300 where nvidia had a bit more than 50%, ATI had 30 something and the rest was other vendors. I believe that has changed a lot since r300 and specificly the 9500 nonpro.

Marlboro_man Senior Member Posts: 15 Joined: 2002-12-13

#42763 Posted on: 04/03/2003 08:49 PM Let's just imagine that another major title - for example Duke Nukem Forever will be ATI exclusive....and so on. Nightmare.

El_Coyote Senior Member Posts: 555 Joined: 2002-12-18

#42764 Posted on: 04/03/2003 08:50 PM lol comeon, lets not make it better than it is, before its even tested...

EMPIRE Unregistered

#42765 Posted on: 04/03/2003 08:53 PM Why does this whole thing smell like an April's 1st joke reminescence?

MagamiAKO Unregistered

#42768 Posted on: 04/03/2003 09:06 PM "ATI Has Rendermonkey" "ATI Follows standards" What standards are they following? The ones set forth by Microsoft? And what advancements in games have we had since Microsoft has been setting DirectX standards? I still don't see games that use pixel shaders. All we see are games that use the 'standard' pathways for everything, why? Because both ATI and Nvidia hardware do things a little bit differently from eachother. The fact is, Nvidia's GF-FX is very powerful with specially optimized pathways, Valve can create a great environment and beautiful scenery with these optimized pathways. The game would perform as powerful as it can with these optimized pathways, and pixel shaders can be aplenty with Cg. Another fact is, ATI's R9x00 is very powerful with optimized pathways. Valve can create a great environment and beautiful scenery with these optimized pathways. The game would perform as powerful as it can with these optimized pathways, and pixel shaders can be aplenty via the usage of their RenderMonkey. The inconveniencing thing is that each card's optimized pathway requires a specific vision of how the game will eventually look, feel, and play. It's virtually double the work having to use these pathways, and it's double the work having to test this hardware. On the negative side about ATI, it could be far more work for the game developers to create/modify the engines they're using for their games because there might not be a certain item or feature in ATI drivers, or it might be a bug. John Carmack has spoken on this a long while ago. Not everyone has a 3d engine god of a programmer to work on their games, either. It can shorten development time for these huge ass, beautiful, brand new games, if the game companies simply released for specific types of hardware. Not to mention, why should game developers use DirectX 9 if the hardware exceeds the abilities of DirectX? Since when does Microsoft dictate exactly what game companies should and shouldn't do? There are a lot of pros and upsides to this. If you don't like it, tough shit. I think the game, in the end, would be far better than what would be.

Jaybo Unregistered

#42769 Posted on: 04/03/2003 09:06 PM I thought Duke Nukem Forever was only coming out for the Bitboys video card...

Marlboro_man Unregistered Posts: 15 Joined: 2002-12-13

#42770 Posted on: 04/03/2003 09:12 PM DNF WILL come out. "I BELIEVE" LOL

Skyfrog Unregistered

#42771 Posted on: 04/03/2003 09:15 PM Because it's stupid.

hinkle Unregistered

#42772 Posted on: 04/03/2003 09:17 PM first, your market share source is wrong. Nvidia does own about 70% of the whole market. second, this has changed less than one could expect considering the success of ATI the last few months. and finally, ATI has just released their R350 core, don't expect an announcement of the R400 before Fall this year just take this survey from last year and you will notice that nvidia owns 62.5% of the gamers (for Half-Life which is the most popular game, now isn't it and ATI something around 7%. I'm pretty sure that almost all hardcore gamers which own a 9700 or 9800 will switch over to the nv35 since it will be the standard for game performance the moment it arrives in stores...

RiCO Senior Member Posts: 289 Joined: 2002-05-28

#42773 Posted on: 04/03/2003 09:18 PM If this is true, I'd boycott both Valve and nVIDIA för life, and I won't be alone.

Marlboro_man Senior Member Posts: 15 Joined: 2002-12-13

#42774 Posted on: 04/03/2003 09:18 PM Maybe nvidia should resurrect glide? LOL

dlolos Unregistered

#42775 Posted on: 04/03/2003 09:20 PM Ok people let me make this very clear. "It ain't going to happen!" While Nvidia owns a huge market share of 3D accelerators, don't forget that they only make up a good 30% to 40%. That still means that Vavle would lose over 60% of possible users. Most likely the rumor went around, and probably got screwed up. Probably Nvidia specific features will be Nvidia exclusive. What features? I don't know, but it will probably be for Geforce FX. Even that would be a pretty sad attempt on Nvidia. The biggest problem is OpenGL. ATI and Nvidia have allowed themselves to make video card specific instrunctions to boost gaming performance. Direct 3d now has it's place in 3D gaming as it doesn't chose sides like OpenGL. Unless OpenGl 2.0 fixes these problems, I don't see how it could get better. The "Way it's meant to be played" logo is starting to really piss me off. I am a ATI card owner, but I don't plan to always own a ATI card. What ever is cheaper and better is what I go for. If it's not a Radeon 9700, Geforce FX then it could be a SIS Xabre, or S3 Delta Crome. It just so happens ATI has the better buy at the moment, and the cards are in store shelves. Unlike Geforce FX.

hinkle Unregistered

#42776 Posted on: 04/03/2003 09:21 PM well even without the nv35 vavle will have the most potential buyers while choosing nvidia. They still own more than 60% of the market. The rest being divided between ATI, Matrox an other "smaller" graphiccard manufactures like Intel themselves...

Vasquez Unregistered

#42777 Posted on: 04/03/2003 09:24 PM As I understand it... Unreal engined games still ship with the OpenGL renderer, but it is not 'officially' supported, and I very much doubt it will be developed further in the future.

hinkle Unregistered

#42778 Posted on: 04/03/2003 09:24 PM that would be really stupid considering the success HL1 had and the excellent gaming experience it offered, I would rather buy HL2 and a nvidia card then boycott both companies

hinkle Unregistered

#42779 Posted on: 04/03/2003 09:28 PM Have you already look at your calendar? Where I'm living we already are almost the 4th of April!

zardon Junior Member Posts: 1 Joined: 2003-04-15

#42780 Posted on: 04/03/2003 09:36 PM this whole debate is a waste of time guys, this article is NOT correct.

Quinn1981 Unregistered

#42781 Posted on: 04/03/2003 10:31 PM So far, nVidia isn't confirming the slightest bit about games that will be made for ATI or nVidia soley. Might as well forget this article made by that site obviously looking for a large story. After I get one more email, I will post what nVidia officially says.

El_Coyote Senior Member Posts: 555 Joined: 2002-12-18

#42782 Posted on: 04/03/2003 10:54 PM then nvidias marketshare has grown since 9500 and 9700... hardly... get ur figures strait

El_Coyote Senior Member Posts: 555 Joined: 2002-12-18

#42783 Posted on: 04/03/2003 10:57 PM dude look at sales surveys instead of online polls!

Gemini Unregistered

#42784 Posted on: 04/03/2003 11:07 PM More than a MILLION ATi DX9 cards shipped should open your eyes.

Gemini Unregistered

#42785 Posted on: 04/03/2003 11:12 PM That won't happen. Valve won't be that stupid.

OldUncleBob Unregistered

#42786 Posted on: 04/03/2003 11:33 PM Well, it looks like I won't be buying that coaster then!

thomas997 Junior Member Posts: 12 Joined: 2003-04-21

#42790 Posted on: 04/04/2003 02:23 AM of course this is bull nvidia owns 40% or whatever of the market you say? like what maybe 10% would be gf 4 4200 and up? probably less. GF FX will be like 1% or some shit most of the cards people have now are gf2mx or gf4mx thats what they get there 40% from not the high end cards

Dwarden Junior Member Posts: 2 Joined: 2006-10-04

#42804 Posted on: 04/04/2003 02:06 PM ROFL, that survey still takes in mind my over year (maybe year and half) or so old entry (with nVidia card these times) so it's TOTALLY useless (old values) ... better to look at Futuremark list of hardware (ya i know nVidia owners will whine about it etc) ...

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