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Just saw this on Msfn.org: On a day of national tragedy, with the folks at NASA in grief at the lost of the space shuttle Columbia and the seven astronauts onboard, a hacking group known as Trippin Smurfs decided to defaced a number of NASA web servers with a rant about Iraq.

Lithorus Unregistered

#41028 Posted on: 02/02/2003 03:24 AM So that makes a war against Iraq less important? I don't want to get political or anything but what if they spent more money on the whole NASA thing instead of preparing a war? The hacker wanted a big crowd and that's what he got, get over it.

wb22gprix Unregistered

#41029 Posted on: 02/02/2003 03:54 AM Yes, just another liberal 14 year old that has no grasp on anything.

AJCrowley Junior Member Posts: 9 Joined: 2002-06-19

#41030 Posted on: 02/02/2003 05:42 AM Yes, just another ignorant American that thinks that finding the unjustifiable slaughter of Iraqis an objectionable prospect makes a person "liberal". Try looking "liberal" up in the dictionary, and while you're at it, try looking at some news other than Fox and CNN and getting a bit of truth about the situation in Iraq. I've got lots of American friends, but the mindless masses in America that think that war is a game or a good thing and support this invasion paint a grim picture indeed of their country. If this goes ahead, it sets a dangerous precedent whereby the U.S. can invade anybody at all without approval from the U.N. simply because they don't like them. Americans have this highly hypocritical attitude and wonder why people start smashing planes into their buildings, get a clue. The U.S. has a far more dubious recent history than Iraq, and hold a firm place in Dubya's "Axis of Evil". Try reading about the unprovoked bombing of Cambodia resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of civillians, or WHY Iraq hates the USA (betrayed by them in the Iran war, where the USA gave chemical weapons and a pat on the back to both sides). Try reading about the CIA death squads in Central America during the 80s. The USA is a far more dangerous and unscrupulous nation than Iraq, and should be disarmed for the good of the world at large. My condolences to the families and friends of those lost in the shuttle accident.

digitalwanderer Junior Member Posts: 3 Joined: 2004-02-22

#41031 Posted on: 02/02/2003 06:04 AM Whatever the motives, that's just plain mean and rude.

corrosive_nf Unregistered

#41034 Posted on: 02/02/2003 06:25 AM How about the widespread slaughter of Kurds by Iraq when they tried to form their own country in the middle of a desolate valley in north iraq? How about them launching missles into isreal when they were not taking part in desert storm. What about their invasion of kuwait and their planned invasion and decimation of Saudi Arabia? Their decloration that given a nuclear weapno they would detonate them in isreal, iran and various western countries. What about the 16 UN resolutions and the 11 years he has had to abide by those un resolutions. But yeah you go on thinking that its all about "innocent" iraqis. The same Saddam that has personally shot members of his own family. God damn i think you might need to be the one that needs to look beyond your own propaganda. I served in Desert Storm and witnessed Iraqi officers shooting their own men and then themselves rather than return to iraq as pow's. You sir, are ignorant, and blame your own sad, meaningless life on the us, rather than on your own short sighted ignorance of the world at hand. Way to jump on the anti-america bandwagon. In 10 years come back and tell me how you are doing.

AJCrowley Junior Member Posts: 9 Joined: 2002-06-19

#41035 Posted on: 02/02/2003 06:39 AM Don't get me wrong, Saddam Hussein is a terrible terrible man, probably even nastier than George W. Bush. I don't condone the actions of the Iraqi government, but allowing the US to invade without just cause sets an extremely dangerous precedent, and it irks me greatly that the American public are so easily manipulated into supporting such an endevour. If you think that your country should be able to freely invade anyone that they don't like the look of, then good for you, as long as you're not the leader of a superpower, that's fine by me. In contrast to you, I am anything but ignorant, and am quite happy in my life. I'm not on any "bandwagon", and any resentment I have towards the US government and its supporters is a result of the attitude that the US is somehow infallible and exempt from the rules. I have no resentment towards the US as a country, in fact, I think the very fact that I give a damn how they behave illustrates that I care about the US. Your attitude however, is typical of what's gone wrong with your kin. Trust me, whatever Iraq has done, your country has done just as bad, but you don't figure that into the equation when you judge a nation and condemn them to death. Look at the murder rate in your own country compared to the rest of the Western world, then realize that you should be turning your attention to the sickness of your own country before making yourselves judge, jury and executioner for the rest of the world.

Kegel Unregistered

#41036 Posted on: 02/02/2003 12:03 PM not all brits are ***** assholes. No matter what your views on President Bush's statement of upcoming war, this, from an English journalist, is very interesting. For those of you not familiar with the UK's Daily Mirror, this is a notoriously left-wing daily that is normally not supportive of the Colonials across the Atlantic. Tony Parsons Daily Mirror September 11, 2002 ONE year ago, the world witnessed a unique kind of broadcasting -- the mass murder of thousands, live on television. As a lesson in the pitiless cruelty of the human race, September 11 was up there, with Pol Pot's mountain of skulls in Cambodia, or the skeletal bodies stacked like garbage in the Nazi concentration camps. An unspeakable act so cruel, so calculated and so utterly merciless that surely the world could agree on one thing - nobody deserves this fate. Surely there could be consensus: the victims were truly innocent, the perpetrators truly evil. But to the world's eternal shame, 9/11/01 is increasingly seen as America's comeuppance. Incredibly, anti-Americanism has increased over the last year. There has always been a simmering resentment to the USA in this country - too loud, too rich, too full of themselves, and so much happier than Europeans - but it has become an epidemic. And it seems incredible to me. More than that, it turns my stomach. America is this country's greatest friend and our staunchest ally. We are bonded to the US by culture, language and blood. A little over half a century ago, around half a million Americans died for our freedoms, as well as their own. Have we forgotten so soon? And exactly a year ago, thousands of ordinary men, women and children - not just Americans, but from dozens of countries - were butchered by a small group of religious fanatics. Are we so quick to betray them? What touched the heart about those who died in the twin towers and on the planes was that we recognized them. Young fathers and mothers, somebody's son and somebody's daughter, husbands and wives, and children, some unborn. And these people brought it on themselves? And their nation is to blame for their meticulously planned slaughter? These days you don't have to be some dust-encrusted nut job in Kabul or Karachi or Finsbury Park to see America as the Great Satan. The anti-American alliance is made up of self-loathing liberals who blame the Americans for every ill in the Third World, and conservatives suffering from power-envy, bitter that the world's only superpower can do what it likes without having to ask permission. The truth is that America has behaved with enormous restraint since September 11. Remember, remember! Remember the gut-wrenching tapes of weeping men phoning their wives to say, "I love you," before they were burned alive. Remember those people leaping to their deaths from the top of burning skyscrapers. Remember the hundreds of firemen buried alive. Remember the smiling face of that beautiful little girl who was on one of the planes with her mum. Remember, remember - and realize that America has never retaliated for 9/11 in anything like the way it could have. So a few al-Qaeda tourists got locked without a trial in Camp X-ray? So some Afghan wedding receptions were shot up after they merrily fired their semi-automatics in a sky full of American planes? A shame, but maybe next time they should stick to confetti. AMERICA could have turned a large chunk of the world into a parking lot. That it didn't is a sign of strength. American voices are already being raised against attacking Iraq - that's what a democracy is for. How many in the Islamic world will have a minute's silence for the slaughtered innocents of 9/11? How many Islamic leaders will have the guts to say that the mass murder of 9/11 was an abomination? When the news of 9/11 broke on the West Bank, those freedom-loving Palestinians were dancing in the street. America watched all of that - and didn't push the button. We should thank the stars that America is the most powerful nation in the world. I still find it incredible that 9/11 did not provoke all-out war. Not a "war on terrorism." A real war. The fundamentalist dudes are talking about "opening the gates of hell," if America attacks Iraq. Well, America could have opened the gates of hell like you wouldn't believe. The US is the most militarily powerful nation that ever strode the face of the earth. The campaign in Afghanistan may have been less than perfect and the planned war on Iraq may be misconceived. But don't blame America for not bringing peace and light to these wretched countries. How many democracies are there in the Middle East, or in the Muslim world? You can count them on the fingers of one hand-assuming you haven't had any chopped off for minor shoplifting. I love America, yet America is hated. I guess that makes me Bush's poodle. But I would rather be a dog in New York City than a Prince in Riyadh. Above all, America is hated because it is what every country wants to be - rich, free, strong, open, optimistic. Not ground down by the past, or religion, or some caste system. America is the best friend this country ever had and we should start remembering that. Or do you really think the USA is the root of all evil? Tell it to the loved ones of the men and women who leaped to their death from the burning towers. Tell it to the nursing mothers whose husbands died on one of the hijacked planes, or were ripped apart in a collapsing skyscraper. And tell it to the hundreds of young widows whose husbands worked for the New York Fire Department. To our shame, George Bush gets a worse press than Saddam Hussein. Once we were told that Saddam gassed the Kurds, tortured his own people and set up rape-camps in Kuwait. Now we are told he likes Quality Street. Save me the orange center, oh mighty one! Remember, remember, September 11. One of the greatest atrocities in human history was committed against America. No, do more than remember. Never forget.

Caminante Junior Member Posts: 3 Joined: 2003-01-01

#41038 Posted on: 02/02/2003 01:50 PM eeehhhh.....allow me to make few corrections Sir; If we're gonna be talking about 'injustified slaughter of Iraqis' maybe you should start by the thousands of innocents Kurds including woman and children which Sadan murdered using chemical weapons and...the many others murdered when he ordered the attack on Kuwait. I just love it, when one of this mussulims freaks starts running their mouth against the war on Iraq when they forget all the horrible things which Sadan has done to their own mussulins brothers. :P :P :P :P, now that is HIPOCRISY! I don't know what type of books have you been "reading" or where from you get your news, but, The USA never really 'betrayed' Sadan in the Iran war, Sadan was the one who started the war and though that by keeping the Iranians at bait, he'd score big points with the USA etc. Sadam is not a very popular person in his own country, he's hated by the Kurds in the North and some other group in the South which i've forgotten their name. With this having been said, why don't you try to be more careful while reading books in the future and at least make an effort to aborbe what you read. Ah, for the record Fox News rules, it is the only worth watching source of news in the USA.

scyphe Unregistered

#41039 Posted on: 02/02/2003 03:24 PM You REALLY REALLY don't see the arrogance, the hypocrisy, the dangerous development of NOT caring a single second about the UN? What has september 11:th got to do with Iraq? Do you start war because a country don't like the US? No. Do you start a war because a country won't give up the weapons your country supplied it with years ago, without the approval of UN? No. I'm not a liberal. I just think that Bush and the followers shouldn't take matters in their own hands and crap on the rest of the worlds opinion. That is some of the things that has increased the anti-americanism.

Imaginos Junior Member Posts: 3 Joined: 2002-09-10

#41053 Posted on: 02/02/2003 10:40 PM Remember that as civilians, you do not have access to all the classified information the US and other governments have gathered. You have no idea about what threats remain- only what is reportable and what is reported. Call the US what you will out of misplaced anger and resentment, but on 5 Feb, President Bush will share with the UN Security Council the minimum information he feels is necessary to gain UN support of my nation's intention to forcibly end the threatening situation in Iraq if need be. We will no longer tolerate a deadly shell game with weapons of mass destruction. Iraq has had 12 years to comply, during which, they have violated UN resolutions over 70 times. Time is up.

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