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Recently CCleaner has added an internet urban legend as a cleaning option, "Old Prefetch Data". Cleaning the Prefetch folder is an internet Myth that simply will not die due to the gross ignorance of many people in regards to how Windows XP Prefetching works. These same people generally recommend other bogus advice such as disabling Windows Prefetching completely and adding /Prefetch:1 to desktop shortcuts.



"Bottom line: You will NOT improve Windows performance by cleaning out the Prefetch folder. You will, in fact, degrade Windows performance by cleaning out the Prefetch folder."

CCleaner for the most part is a good application, it quickly and easily removes temporary and unused files from Windows. It has a nice interface that clearly shows what has been "cleaned". On neglected systems this can free hundreds of Megabytes of harddisk space. Apparently in the authors quest to clean everything and anything, he blindly ignored how Prefetching works...

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Mastertech Junior Member Posts: 2 Joined: 2005-04-13

#62785 Posted on: 10/06/2005 12:54 AM Thanks for the discussion, and let's just agree to disagree. In your dreams. I will continually point out where you are wrong because I can back up what I am talking about with reproduceable evidence. Show me one test that proves prefetching works how you claim. I have little if any regard for your work now - far less than I did before. I've never had any regard for your work because it was always filled with misleading innaccurate advice. Of all the tweakers I can name, Thomas McGuire is perhaps one of the last few for whom I have high regard, particularly for his contributions to game tweaking, as well as assorted tech sites like HardOCP which explore new discoveries. It doesn't mean he understand prefetching any better then you do. Using alarmist terms like "crippling windows" - when I know for a fact that is not the case - and flip-flopping when MS' own documents reveal that prefetch must preload data at some point (I would suggest boot time seems logical based on my observations). Good going. You can't even comprehend the facts and it does cripple application load times, try testing it instead of defending your hopelessly wrong position. The only flip-flop is your ignorance on Prefetching. You go from clueless to foolish. That MSDN article you referenced is not accurate, I suggest you get a quote from the XP developement team if you don't believe people like Mark Russinovich. For the record, I have never had any problems admitting I am wrong, adjusting my guides accordingly when new facts come to light, or testing/user feedback tells me things are not working. Many of the myths you speak of I have already updated since the start of the year in my guide indicating that they are useless (but harmless in any case). You hardly research any facts before you post them. If you spent half the time doing so you would understand how prefetching works and not be arguing with me about it. At the same time, unlike your ranting, I have no problems with my readers using other guides and deciding for themselves what works and what doesn't. Unlike you I don't label my guide 'incompatible with other guides' to try to wrangle traffic my way. I don't accept your guide as fact, but it seems harmless enough. It's not the way I do things, but that's fine. I have a big problem with my readers using other guides fille with inaccurate and misleading information. Your ignorance on prefetching furthers my point. This brings up another point I don't really care what you do but you seem to be obsessed with me, why is that? The proof is in the pudding as they say. Everyone who has used my TGTC seems to be happy with the newfound speed and stability, and indeed on a wide range of systems I have installed and used for myself and friends, it's the same case. Fast loading times, fast app launch times, better performance in games and rock-solid stability. Ignorance is bliss. Disabling prefetching or clearing the prefetch folder does not undo any other tweaks in your guides that actually work. It also does not affect stability in any way. It does however cripple application load times. Like I said try really testing this and stop blowing hot air around. Get a clue and do some research, you will thank me later but never admit it.

Mastertech Junior Member Posts: 2 Joined: 2005-04-13

#62786 Posted on: 10/06/2005 01:00 AM My performance figures are derived from testing with a stopwatch. I don't know where to even start, here. other than find a way to stop myself laughing. Try it yourself you might learn something. Go do some real research and test things before posting BS. People like you are what is wrong with the internet. You provide BS advice consitently with out verifying it. Yes kids, lets all do our "Research" with a stopwatch. Have you even tried this yet? Accurate information ? Lmao !! You have Norton Antivirus, and Trend bloody micro, under your anti-virus recommendations. ANY savvy person will know that Kaspersky is the best. And what about Anti-Vir ? For Free, it Certainly beats anything you've mentioned on your shit site. Your whole "Tweak" website is just a complete joke. A whole page of sheer arrogance, rather than helpful advice. Ah, comprehension helps so does reading. Those are not "recommended", what is, is an updated antivirus program that is ICSA certified. Your opinions on Kaspersky are hardly factual and it can hardly be considered the "best". Anti-Vir does not automatically update or include a boot time scan. Interesting you are deflecting the prefetching discussion as you must have discovered what I am saying to be true and you are not man enough to admit it.

ChrisW Unregistered

#62787 Posted on: 10/06/2005 03:31 AM >>Try it yourself you might learn something. Clearly, you haven't though, have you. >>Have you even tried this yet? I don't need a stopwatch. Obviously, you do, because (Like what has been pointed out to you, over and over) that it requires a stopwatch to see the difference. i.e it's soo bloody miniscule, that it's not worth bothering with. If was such a huge difference(like you keep trying to point out), it would be soo ***** obvious, >> Those are not "recommended", what is, is an updated antivirus program that is ICSA certified. I couldn't give a flying ass-wipe if it was GOD certified. Anybody with a microgram worth of knowledge would know you are completely wrong. >>Your opinions on Kaspersky are hardly factual and it can hardly be considered the "best". Again, your complete lack of anything thats even remotely factual, just gets funnier by the minute. Ask anyone about a virus killer, ANYONE, and you will get Kaspersky as an answer. It's the best. But what would a complete arrogant moron like yourself know about anything ? >>Anti-Vir does not automatically update or include a boot time scan. Yes it does, I had it running for over a year. >>Interesting you are deflecting the prefetching discussion as you must have discovered what I am saying to be true and you are not man enough to admit it. Admit what, you're a moron ? Thats easy enough. YOU ARE A MORON !! End of discussion !!

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