Warp2Search.net » News » June 2004 » ATI admits to same ''tricks'' as Nvidia

Thanks to Mackey D for pionting out this article posted over at GameSpot.

After criticizing rival Nvidia for using optimized trilinear filtering algorithms in its PC graphics card drivers--calling them "unacceptable tricks" in a recent presentation to hardware reviewers last month--ATI Technologies has acknowledged using similar optimizations itself.

karlotta Junior Member Posts: 5 Joined: 2002-05-17

#54221 Posted on: 06/03/2004 11:46 PM oh plz, what a crock. they take the chat with ATi, then talk to BB and a few other web guys who all say its not a cheat, or cant figure it out yet, then print this lame ass trash saying that its just like NVs, and ATI admist it? Who what when? must be time to get some hits eh / what a duffbag.

JimJimJim Unregistered

#54223 Posted on: 06/04/2004 12:03 AM I really have to think hard to find something that I care less about, but that's just me.....

wb22gprix Unregistered

#54225 Posted on: 06/04/2004 12:09 AM This is pretty dumb, who cares

Bow_To_The_God Unregistered

#54226 Posted on: 06/04/2004 12:12 AM Sheeesh! Would people just get over that fact that both companies do the same thing! It's business. Plus I wish that Brian Burke would get gang raped by 40 hairy men! lol

digitalwanderer Junior Member Posts: 3 Joined: 2004-02-22

#54228 Posted on: 06/04/2004 12:20 AM Where were all these sites when nVidia was cheating the bejesus out of EVERYTHING last year? Why are they only crying foul now that it's ATi with their fingers caught in the cookie jar? :/

Domingo Unregistered

#54230 Posted on: 06/04/2004 12:30 AM I was actually thinking the opposite. when Nvidia is cheating it always seems like people go apeshit. When ATI does it's almost like a footnote. I personally don't care and have/do own cards from both companies. If I get faster framerates in games without a loss of quality, I couldn't give 2 shits how they do it

Static_x17 Unregistered

#54231 Posted on: 06/04/2004 12:32 AM Word.

Phalin Junior Member Posts: 3 Joined: 2002-07-28

#54234 Posted on: 06/04/2004 01:30 AM "Where were all these sites when nVidia was cheating the bejesus out of EVERYTHING last year? Why are they only crying foul now that it's ATi with their fingers caught in the cookie jar? " LOL where have you been, more like Lost then a wonderer.

Lycronis Unregistered

#54236 Posted on: 06/04/2004 03:36 AM You are kidding right? Tell me that you meant that as a joke. There wasn't a site on the net that didn't mention what nVidia was doing last yer. Give me a break Digi.

cmsmith Unregistered

#54237 Posted on: 06/04/2004 04:39 AM I'm sorry, but this is a load of crap. I haven't made up my mind as to whether or not what ATi is doing is cheating (there appears to be no image degradation). However, in no way does this compare to what Nvidia did. Nvidia specifically coded their drivers such it would look for EXE's of benchmarks and games used as benchmarks and made various "adjustments" to pump up the score. I haven't exactly kept up with this issue with ATi, but my understanding of what is going on doesn't even come close to comparison of what Nvidia did. Furthermore, Nvidia stretched the truth a bit when it came to the specs of it's hardware ("The FX line of cards are 8x1 pipelines." Yeah, right Nvidia...). I think we got some Nvidia homers who need to calm and step back a back to rethink what they are doing/saying. Just my 2 cents...

MuffinMan Junior Member Posts: 3 Joined: 2004-09-15

#54238 Posted on: 06/04/2004 05:15 AM As usual, you are living in the mATIrix.

BetrayerX Unregistered

#54239 Posted on: 06/04/2004 05:48 AM Can this be any more old? There are like 5000 (ok a lot, dunno how many, stopped reading like in page 40) replies in a thread in B3D, and yet no one can decide if it affects IQ.

Jaybo Unregistered

#54240 Posted on: 06/04/2004 07:17 AM He's got to be joking. It was everywhere, and he made sure of it himself.

Static_x17 Unregistered

#54242 Posted on: 06/04/2004 07:34 AM And ATI didn't?

qsr Unregistered

#54243 Posted on: 06/04/2004 08:43 AM It is same as Windows XP which has been out for 5 years now but Tweaking Guides still coming out ;D

vacantmind Unregistered

#54245 Posted on: 06/04/2004 12:26 PM you guys are ***** idiots, in the end both companies still take your money.

The_truth Unregistered

#54246 Posted on: 06/04/2004 12:33 PM The difference is the big sites that were/are in nvidias pocket ([H]/Anand/Toms) pretty much ignored what nvidia was doing until they had absolutely no choice. Now ATI has done something, probably the most minor of nvidias crimes (if its a crime at all since it actually works well in ATIs case) its an issue for everyone.

The_truth Unregistered

#54247 Posted on: 06/04/2004 12:35 PM Not really no.

cmsmith Unregistered

#54252 Posted on: 06/04/2004 02:44 PM Eh, I need some more info. ATi didn't do what?

StarGazer Unregistered

#54253 Posted on: 06/04/2004 02:55 PM ...and I'm sure you'll be fine with XGI, S3 and VIA hi-end cards.

MuffinMan Junior Member Posts: 3 Joined: 2004-09-15

#54255 Posted on: 06/04/2004 04:52 PM Ahh, no. The 'big' sites investigated the situation, but didn't necessarily choose to class Nvidia as Satans semen for it. The smaller, more biased, sites saw it as an opportunity to rip into Nvidia and did so with glee, playing to their inbred audience with aplomb.

BetrayerX Unregistered

#54260 Posted on: 06/04/2004 07:05 PM What he said is the truth. The big sites ignored it, the so called "smaller biased" did play QUITE an OPPOSITE roll on this. Get your facts staright. Anand came with 3-4 lame small screenshots at the 9800XT review for the first time and I have yet to hear from a Toms' article.

The_truth Unregistered

#54261 Posted on: 06/04/2004 07:49 PM Wrong, they did mention it here and there but for some unknown (!) reason they down played it as much as possible. Its true that after a while the IQ differences were minor, but at the start of it all, when the 5800 was around, the differences were HUGE and nvidia deserved to be slammed!! They were ripping people off big time. If you dont think nvidia deserved to be slammed then you are a fanboy, what they did was well out of order and will hopefully never be repeated. Dont you remember the large number of forum posts that were deleted at both toms and [H] because they dared to tell the truth about nvidias cheating?

Jaybo Unregistered

#54264 Posted on: 06/05/2004 09:00 AM ...and why do we care about only those two sites? It was everywhere. It really was. You know this.

The_truth Unregistered

#54271 Posted on: 06/05/2004 09:26 PM I know, but those 2 or 3 sites are the biggest and have the most readers, especially amoung the noobs.

Warp2Search.net » News » June 2004 » ATI admits to same ''tricks'' as Nvidia